Vocalist Grace Jane Pasturini (Lilith) and guitarists Amber Maldonado (Lamia) and Patri Grief (Rusalka) have announced their departure from Dogma, alleging that they were replaced after facing “unilateral decisions, broken promises, manipulation, mistreatment, and lies to the fans.”
The trio released a lengthy joint statement detailing their experience, expressing that the project’s current direction no longer reflects its original spirit:
“We were part of Dogma. We loved this project, but what’s being sold today is not Dogma. During the tours we saw unilateral decisions, broken promises, manipulation, mistreatment, and lies to the fans. The person who now controls the project is a threat to Dogma’s future and is not an artist or a musician. He turned a band into a brand, and people into disposable pieces. He betrayed the artists, his partners, and the fans.
Dogma was born from connection, from the music, from the stories we shared with you. Replacing people without honesty isn’t who we are. Dogma is meant to push the ideals of freedom and liberation, none of which can exist without integrity and honesty toward the fans and everyone involved in the project.
We don’t want to see more fans deceived, spending their money and devotion on something hollow. The real Dogma stands here, with those who created that connection for real. But the power isn’t in our hands. It’s in yours. It always has been.
You decide who deserves to keep the music alive. No manager can control that. Make your voice heard. Don’t support a lie. The social networks using the name ‘Official Dogma’ no longer represent the real band or what we stand for. Demand transparency. Ask for refunds if you weren’t given what you were promised. Don’t let anyone manipulate you.
Also, no more masks. Masks were meant to protect identity, not to replace people. The only one who needs to take off the mask is him. The power to change this story starts with your support. We will keep going. The music, the creativity, and the truth are on our side. We put our souls into this project, and that’s why you were able to connect with us. No manager should be allowed to strip that away.”
The band later responded with their own statement, addressing the accusations and emphasizing that Dogma will continue moving forward:
“We are aware of recent online statements by some former, non-original members of Dogma. While we respect everyone who has contributed to our journey, we want to be clear that Dogma has always been and will continue to be much bigger than any one individual.
Dogma was founded on creativity, collaboration, and evolution. Like any artistic project, change is part of our growth. Every member, past and present, has left a mark that helped shape who we are today, but Dogma’s vision and music continue to move forward through the dedication of the current team and the support of our fans.
We remain fully committed to the values that define Dogma: authenticity, freedom of expression, and connection through art. Our focus is and always will be on the music, the message, and the community that has made this project what it is.
Thank you to everyone who continues to believe in Dogma and what we stand for, cause Dogma was never about who we are, it’s about what YOU choose to become…”
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Three Members Exit DOGMA, Citing “Manipulation, Mistreatment, And Lies To The Fans”; Band Responds
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What kind of Cradle of Filth is that one?
Simon Ramos The Slipknot kind 🤣
Simon Ramos Not even similar
Simon Ramos The hot kind 😎🔥
Simon Ramos The one where Dani is in management, not the band.
The Simpsons did it , the Simpsons did it
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Cradle of filth sister band.
That’s what you get when you in fucking gimmick band where the managers calls the (money) shots and decent music comes secondary. Looking at you as well Ghost.
Benjamin Crommentuyn Ghost is a completely different story. They’ve already maintained major success, and are incredible live. If you ever get the chance see them, if you haven’t already. 🤘🏻
Beau Long i’ve seen them twice back in the day (2013 and 2014) when it wasn’t the Tobias and hired guns band. But ever since Meloria i decided they aren’t for me anymore. I can understand wanting a certain degree of commercial success. But once the music takes a hit and the commercial success takes precedence i’m out.
The music is good music so not sure about any commercial success, like one of the songs is a tribute to his dead brother , so like people are just being assholes , as if he would not rather have his brother alive.
Benjamin Crommentuyn It was always Tobias and hired guns band.
Benjamin Crommentuyn I’m not a big fan of Ghost, not my style, but I did go see them live earlier this year: I like to see the “popular” bands live at least once just to see what they do. Most are disappointing but Ghost was actually really good. It was a great show.
Jesse Sikora he had to go down the legal route to prove it though
Benjamin Crommentuyn ghost isn’t a band it’s a solo project with session musicians, he’s pretty open about that.
Luc Gierten yeah that’s what he said later on when everbody left of course. And by the sounds of the recent material he could do with some outsiders input, but that’s my opinon.
Benjamin Crommentuyn was always his project. Perfectly clear.
Benjamin Crommentuyn The music was top notch thou 👌🏼 Best album of 2024 easily 🔥🏆
Stephen Withaph
Alan Chu possible cancelled tour
Already requested my refund for the meet and greet & concept tickets
Ron CentofantiPaying for a meet and greet is crazy. Metal is going to hell 😮💨
Ron Centofanti i did the same.
Brian Betts so did I…but haven’t heard back
Let’s ask Corey Taylor and see what he has to say!
Pablo Flores lol 😆 😂
Pablo Flores 😂
Pablo Flores It’s too late man. Robb Flynn spoke first before Corey.
Pablo Flores fuck Corey Taylor. He’s old news. Everyone wants to know what Ronnie Radtke thinks about this.
James Chagnon oof… Even worse 😂
Oh no! The squatters are falling apart?!
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Marko Vrbanc what a fucking piece of shit
When you mess with originality
It always goes down hill.
The 3 women should start up a new band.
Joe Whittle funny because they are not original at all…
The guitars and the singer left? What the hell is a drummer and a bassist going to do now? 😂
Bryan Hillis some kind of drum n bass projekt i think
Gergely Gábor black stripes instead of the white stripes? 😂
Bryan Hillis grindcore
Bryan Hillis Three replacement members and lip syncing
Bryan Hillis Didn’t even slow them down. The tour continues with the new guitarists, and singer. However….don’t waste your money. They’re lip syncing, and playing back tracks. It’s real shit show.
Bryan Hillis hip hop beats duh
Bryan Hillis simple they will hire new ladies..
Bela Kiss their not metal royalty… The 5 of them specifically made it to where they are. Finding new members this soon won’t be the same
Bryan Hillis no shit!!! They got where they are cause of shit load of press and advertising. The management changes the members to fit their need not the fans. Also The are Rock not metal.
Bela Kiss you seem very passionate about this topic…
Bryan Hillis first off it is music, second this is nothing new. This has happened with other bands that were put together with office morons. Five Finger death punch same problem for example.
cool. Tiktok bands come and go. Babymetal is a more legit metal band with artistic integrity
Mäciej Nöwak Babymetal? You’re joking right? 🤣🤣🤣
Stephen Morway im using hyperbole. Indeed. What is the real difference between the two? Babymetal has the better gimmick and costumes. And the staying power.
The real difference is Dogma’s joke of a management company. If Babymetal was managed by the same company they would be in the same situation
Stephen Morway as if baby metal and this aren’t the same thing…
Stephen Morway dogma is a clown show. No offense to Insane Clown Posse who are actual artists unlike this shit band. I knew right from the jump this was a joke. One of the dead giveaways is getting endorsed by Nergal, king of all posers.
There is this other band similar to this called Witch Club Satan also the same satan lesbian band, only difference is they performed with their tits out. Thats for the boys, so respect.
Anyway, we will have another spooky halloween band taking its place
Mäciej Nöwak it is not cool. Before the management drove them out.dogma found a great lineup.its a shame.and baby metal sucks ass.
Im cool with baby metal if only i cud understand japanese
Is their manager Dani Filth? 🤔
Danilo Yoneda best comment
They had one good cover and now they are gone.
Gary Carper Lol. The cover was their worst song. The originals are lit 🔥
Marko Amore Perätalo lol idk i have heard some good some not so good.
Temu Craddle of Filth
Desiderio Mompean Mejias you have no fucking clue do you it shows by your stupidity
Douglas Lopes Ok. The AliExpress substitute that then goes through Temu and sells the Craddle of Filth on a third-party basis.
Who?
Sam Shaw you an owl?
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Adam Younge actually made me laugh lol
I almost went to see them while I was in Vegas. Glad I didn’t go now. Lip syncing really? Not even the original members.
James Duren I agree dont go but you do understand even the group that just left aren’t original either right, they have had like 5 or 6 different lineups
Yeah it’s not even just the ex members, one of the newer members has even turned around saying that she’s been asked to mime against a backing track and was only getting paid $100 per gig and wasn’t even assured she’d be doing the gigs in Asia
Ryan BaconCrusader Bridge She’s not a new member. The woman who said all that, said that she turned down the gig, saying she felt like the manager only offered it to her, because she’s American, and one of the new guitarists couldn’t get into the US.
Adrian Mark Campbell The new guitarist as Rusalka? Maybe I misinterpereted it, but her Instagram post seemed to imply all of what I mentioned
Ryan BaconCrusader Bridge Then I have serious doubts to it being truth, as I read all of what you commented, and the Young lady who posted it, said that she turned down the gig. After the manager told her, that she would be replacing a guitarist, who couldn’t get into the US, she would be playing over back-tracks, because she wouldn’t have time to learn the songs, that she would be paid 100 dollars per show, and that she probably would not continue with the band in Japan, just for the US Tour, she turned it down. She didn’t join the band. It would be extremely unlikely that two guitarists quoted the same story, word for word, and it be true.
#freedogma
The 2000 version of kittie
A.j. Dempsey For deaf and blind people, yes.
A.j. Dempsey no my friend. Kittie know how to play their instruments.
Yeah but how many members they went through…that’s what I’m saying
A.j. Dempsey Ok then.
A.j. Dempsey in this case I agree. But all the members of Kittie knew how to play though. In Dogma the best musician was at the level of a fetus in musicianship.
George Panagiotopoulos Dafuq?! Before management suddenly replaced 3 members, they ALL played live as good as any! And the singer was great!! 🔥
Postmodern satanism is a bad joke! They were onboard when their producers told them: let’s profit from making mockery of people’s beliefs and values, but when they realized they were also used by their producers: they got hurt and offended. 🤦🏻♂️🤣
Now everyone knows this is a boy band type industry plant. Garbage.
Fuk’em Dogma is a great band and the ones parting ways were their decision. I enjoy their music and love the Madonna cover. I just wish they would come through SC/NC
Jeremy McDaniel really? You wanna watch lip synching?
Well, that was quick.
I swear this is the corniest timeline
Too bad. I liked this iteration of the band
All Female bands are gimmicky. Nice to look at but as bands wait, till the periods start!! 😆😅🤣😂
So are they not real nuns??? I’m shocked 😲
Band responds or 2 possibly 1 responds.
So are they cancelling the tour 🤔
Jon Swan Nope. Replaced them already, and it’s NOT good.
Adrian Mark Campbell might have to get a refund 🤔
Jon Swan I asked for mine already. An Army Brother I served with saw them this past Friday, in Reno, and told me they weren’t even really playing. They were playing recorded back tracks, and it was the most Godawful lip sync , shit that he’d ever seen. People were walking out half hour into the show. Damned if I’m driving to Atlanta, and spending what I spent on those tickets, to watch a lip sync show.
Adrian Mark Campbell oh wow ill have to dig round on YouTube for clips not sounding to good from your description
Tony Peaker Eep
hmmmm
” lies to the fans” .They’re not real nuns? 😳
Damn from rising star on the internet to this point in five minutes.
Oh wow I can’t believe a band that sexualities girls in corpse paint and nun costumes also exploits them 💁
Debby Chandler
This is what happens when men in the industry make industry plants
Rianne
Ghostbuster 2016 was an awful film and female “ghost” isn’t a good band at all..🤣🤣🤣🤣
I saw them on a live concert on TV and the playing was awful as fvck. My 15 year son plays better with his band. I don’t want to be negative but for every Nita Strauss and Courtney Cox we have hundreds of amateur female musicians that want to play in a fully professional band but they don’t have the abilities. It’s the truth, no misogynist here. Mark also that Lamia wasn’t at the band then.
💀🎤🙏🏻🔥🤘🎸
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Womans fights 😅
Nuns have No Fun. So I was told back then.
I still support AMGOD
Interesting to see what appears in Dallas TOMORROW NIGHT!!🤷♂️😵💫
Gimmick bands gonna gimmick yo ..
This band since the beginning have had problems keeping members. The problem is the management.
Well this is the band that however you change the members it will not matter coz u wont recognize or notice much of it..
What their not really nuns
Poser’s band
As soon as I saw videos of the band I knew it was basically marketing gimmick the band LOL
Eric Trybulski what’s that got to do with the story? I feel like you don’t know much about this.
Adam Younge what is there to know? The girls joined with full knowledge and agreement. And now complain
Official Douglas Blair I guess there’s two of you that don’t know much about it lol
I can’t be fucked to explain the whole situation here to a couple of guys that obviously aren’t invested in this, but it’s pretty obvious that you both have a superfluous and surface-level understanding of this whole situation.
That band sucks big time.
This blows I got tickets do I get 60% back being 3 left
Tom Mgerack Nope I tried
Mark Beck well I’m hoping they play nj yet
Same managment as Cradle of Filth? 😀
Fire Management. Root problem.
Sam Patrick Yeah, and go fire your boss at work ha ha
Bullshit!
How can the band respond when the band just quit? Lol 😆
Dave Storm because is not a real band?
Dave Storm only 3 quit…. The “band” is now a business and managed… They made the statement, not the band
Rick Williams it’s always been a management act
Dave Storm id explain. But you clearly didn’t read the link.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQcMvqxiO05/?igsh=c3kydW9jYWdvaDdr
Wtfff🥺🥺🥺
The band responds or the manager responds? Three women all saying the same and now a fourth one came out to say what management was trying to force her to sign doesn’t look good, to be honest.
Tiago Geraldes what doesn’t look good? The girls chose to join on their own free will, contract or not. They knew the rules, and exactly what it was… and now they complain?
Sad day
Too much estragon that’s the problem.
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Fezes 💩