Former Dogma guitarist Patri Grief has issued a new, extensive statement addressing her departure from the band and detailing additional allegations against its management team. Grief, who was the first to portray the character of Rusalka, previously came forward alongside Grace Jane Pasturini (the second vocalist to portray Lilith) and Amber Maldonado (the second guitarist to play Lamia), accusing IDL Entertainment, the company behind Dogma’s management, of “unilateral decisions, broken promises, manipulation, mistreatment, and lies.”
The trio also spoke about an allegedly toxic working environment in which members were treated as “disposable players.” Fans have long noted the group’s frequent member turnover, with several lineups cycling through the project over the years.
In her latest statement, Grief expands on those accusations, alleging that she was undervalued, manipulated, and gaslighted by management throughout her time in the band. She further claims she was dismissed from Dogma after traveling to the United States without being provided a proper work visa, a situation that reportedly led to both her and a replacement vocalist being detained and sent back to their home countries. Grief alleges that, shortly after her detainment, she was replaced in the band “without so much as an apology.”
Her full statement reads as follows:
“The Rusalka that once was, and will always be”
“Hey guys. Rusalka (Patri Grief) here. I wanted to talk a little bit more about the recent events, what happened, why it happened, and shed some light on the situation.
In November 2023, I was contacted to be part of Dogma; I immediately fell in love with the project. I instantly fell in love with the aesthetic and songwriting. It seemed like a once in a lifetime opportunity. I was hired as Rusalka, and the adventure began.
You might already know how much I put my soul into this project, always bringing ideas, collaborating with my drawings on drumheads and cards, going to the merch booth every single night, and overall, defining who Rusalka was. Rusalka is based on a very, VERY personal thing that I went through, and I somehow felt the fans really connected to the character in multiple ways. Rusalka was unhinged, crazy, slightly creepy, but always supportive and there to listen. Several of you reached out to me through the character’s account seeking help, which I was always happy to give. Some very personal information was shared, from the fans and from me, yet the account was taken away by the management the minute I was not admitted into the United States.
I gave my everything into this project because, even if things felt off with the manager. I kept thinking ‘you’re doing this for them, and you’re doing this for the teenage Patri who needed you the most.’ I believed Dogma was about ‘giving a voice to those who don’t have one,’ which resonated with me. As a child, I always wanted to become a professional musician specifically for that reason: to give shelter. I hid in music when I needed it the most, and I wanted to return the favor. With that in mind, I went to the merch table every night, read every fan message, and answered all that I could. As the character evolved, so did I. The fans that I met — I wouldn’t even consider them as fans, but friends. I was, and still am, willing to give my all to them.
This management took advantage of my kindness. I was willing to do so many things for free, and, of course, I barely received a ‘thanks’ in return. But the minute I set a boundary (as in, ‘Hey, I’d rather not let you use my gear without permission’) I was met with ‘you’re showing that you’re not committed to the project.’ The minute I said ‘Then why would I be helping with the merch? Why would I be assisting the two new guitarists, if I was not committed to the project?’ I received a ‘I paid you accordingly.’ I was given a 100€ tip at the end of three tours, which, as you can imagine, doesn’t even match the minimum salary for the work that I had been doing. But still, it’s fine, because it was my idea, and I never did it for the money in the first place. I did it for you, for me, and for Rusalka, as she was born from the crazy and misunderstood.
He used the fact that he tipped me to make me shut up, and then he said that it would be better if I stopped doing it for this US tour. He’d rather stop the connection between musician and fan than recognize the efforts I put into the band.
The reason why I am no longer in the band is rather simple: I wasn’t accepted into the United States because management wouldn’t provide the proper VISA. I watched another member get kicked out simply for asking for the correct working VISA, so it seemed pretty clear to me: either go on tour, or be replaced. There was no other option. I flew to the US with the person who was supposed to be the new singer. We were both interrogated and detained. They took our phones (you can imagine how worried my family was), belts, earrings, and even our shoelaces. After 48 hours, we were sent back home.
The minute I turned my phone back on, I had a message from management saying ‘hey I found a replacement, could you teach her the songs?’ Not even an apology for taking the risk! Only him asking for more. When I got back home, I told him that I was detained for 48 hours because of his poorly made decision, to which he answered ‘nobody forced you to do so. It was your decision, and you got caught because you were wearing a Pirate Queen t-shirt under your hoodie.’
I was done. I was done because throughout all the tours, I’ve had to deal with eating only twice a day because he didn’t want to provide three meals. Every time I voiced my concern, I was shut down with the response of ‘no band ever demands that kind of thing,’ while seeing bandmates cry under conditions that we accepted because of the opportunity. Every time I tried to discuss issues, I was met with gaslighting. I was treated poorly for having discussed the contract with another bandmate in order to receive better conditions.
I was unable to organise anything in my life because of multi-month tours being planned with little notice. I was pressured into buying a piece of gear (aside from the guitar) that was ‘mandatory’ which ended up not being necessary at all, it was instead used to carry vinyl and CDs instead of my guitar without my permission. The response? ‘Nobody forced you to do so, it was a suggestion.’ I was told ‘Do you think I’d still hire you if I had more money? Sorry to say, but the minute I can start paying more, I gain access to the people who charge more.’ Any time anyone expressed frustration with the situation, the response was ‘They need to f*ck to be calm’ or ‘They complain too much because they’re women.’ I was sick of him putting us down in order to keep us small and silent.
Despite all of this, being a touring musician has always been my dream, and I loved Dogma, the idea, the concept, the character I played, and the possibility of giving to Music at least a little bit of what Music gave to me when I needed it most.
Grace, Amber and I are not letting you down, and we will stand up for ourselves and the music we play. This management still has outstanding obligations, as ultimately it was his responsibility to provide what was required for a safe work environment. He failed to do so in a gross negligence which cost me and a poor girl — who didn’t even get the chance to sing one show after spending 48 hours in detention. It was a trip that led to nothing but disappointment. I was disappointed to see how easily replaceable we are, to see my character played by someone else who is using a playback at a live show that fans can’t even record, all because he is trying to hide the fact that he is selling something fans didn’t pay for.
And, to add something rather cheesy and petty to my statement, I will say, in Dogma’s usual mystique, but without any AI behind my words: ‘We were joined together in a dark ritual of music and blood, we went through sacrifices that you yet don’t know. Our voices will not be silenced, as, as far as we now talk with our cursed spirits, we will prove to you, sooner than you think, that the staves have already been drawn, the harmony is set, and the hexed melody of the coven is dying to be released.’
Your support means the world to me. To us. I’ve read every single message, and, in all honesty, several of you had made me cry. Nothing new, though, as, since the beginning, while you admired the band from afar, I admired you back from the shadows.”
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Ex-DOGMA Guitarist PATRI GRIEF Makes Further Allegations Against The Band’s Management In New Statement
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I’m not sure how anyone can take this “band” seriously anymore. I hope the ex-members form their own band. They have some serious talent imo.
Mark Kidd I so agree all five (I’m shore the drummer&basest will follow
More of a brand than a band.
Luke Martin that is what the management wanted, they were a band that took it seriously up until recently
Mark Kidd agreed! Or they should kick him to the curb and all of them should form together and jam. Past and new members.
Mark Kidd I have tix to their show as well as a meet and greet on Tuesday. Should be interesting.
On Reddit, people are claiming they are getting their money back. But yeah, the consensus seems to be not good about people who have tickets to shows.
Ryan Denning yeah I dont think that’s happening. Unless they have girls waiting in line to take their spots.
Dogma seems done
It was fun while it lasted
Who fuckin cares? Jesus this band sucked anyway.
Ben Vanweelden why bother text here if you dont care then
Göran Molin because it keeps popping up on my feed, hence why I said something, it’s quite simple.
Ben Vanweelden so then instead of opening your mouth click on not interested it’s very simple.
Hearing how they were treated is beyond disappointing. These women gave everything on stage—I saw it firsthand at their Charlotte, NC show last fall, one of the best performances I’ve ever been to. I’ll keep supporting Amber, Grace, and Patri wherever their paths lead. They deserve better, and they’ve earned our full support. 💜🔥
Ziggy R. Trashe Well said. I was looking forward to seeing them in a few weeks, but then all this happened…
YO ME TOO! like 50 of us showed up haha
Ziggy R. Trashe count me in too!!
Ziggy R. Trashe they were in charlotte? Damn I wish I had known that
Holy crap who the hell cares
Jesse Dunstan me.
Joseph Lago and me
Tom Mgerack and me.
Jesse Dunstan I care.
Jesse Dunstan piss off then!
Jesse Dunstan same here man. It wasn’t even good music! It’s a shady company who exploits women. And everyone is all for it. How could anything go wrong lmao 😂
Who gives a rat’s furry ass.? They suck anyway, and they look like a diet version or watered down version of Cradle Of Filth..Speaking of, they’re no better anymore either .. Used to be alright, now they just get sillier every day..
Why can’t people just go out and perform under normal circumstances instead of copying everyone else and making a new persona.? And why is this garbage the only thing I’m seeing on my feed.? I don’t even listen to them, I listen to real metal..
Brian Campbell Your a jackass! I saw them in Vegas and they absolutely killed it. They copied no one, they absolutely have their own thing going on and I think it’s incredible. I will defend them till the end!!! If you don’t like it don’t listen to it, don’t talk shit!!!
Justin Chapman i can definitely tell this dumbass has never even heard the band. Gotta love the fucking trolls
Justin Chapman copied no one? Ever heard of Kiss?
Sam Gerace What the hell does Kiss have to do with it? I know their music well so please explain?
You’re all just a bunch of haters! I saw them in Vegas. I met with them in the VIP and afterwards. They are amazing. If you guys didn’t have the same experience that I did please stop talking shit…
Justin Chapman
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I would NEVER have an experience like that because I wouldn’t waste my money on the ugly ass scrubs in the first place..And if I had to do something in Vegas, I have friends that live out there that are in punk bands that would be getting my money …They deserve it way more than some fake ass poser Gene Simmons looking prostitutes..Also, can’t say that I feel sorry for the ones that are sticking around..They signed shitty contracts written by Hitler and basically jump when they’re told to jump..I have no respect for cowardly suckers
They’re nothing like Kiss. What is wrong with you people?
Man you all got some freakin problems!!!
Brian Campbell thank you for your opinion…now shove it where the sun don’t shine
Jeff Sparkes
Thank you for your opinion as well, fuckboi..Suck my dick, when you finish that up like a good boy, THEN I’ll turn you around and shove it where the sun don’t shine.. 🫵😘
Reading Patti’s words the Dogma set up is damn poor, I do wonder what the other girls who r still in the band think but can understand they would fear rejection if they did voice their opinions, I know nothing of bands and management but don’t understand that the band can’t get new management which they obviously need…I’m going to see them in Australia when it’s on and very much looking forward to it, hope it’s a good show and no lip sinking…loved your words Patri and hope u get a new gig soon if not already.
It was the “band” that took to the stage knowing full well they or anyone before them had written and recorded the songs right?
It was the ladies themselves that sold this lie to the fans right?
At least the spice girls had the common decency to tell their fans they were a manufactured “band”
These girls are as much part of the problem as their management
Mike Cross WANKER!
English Somm Kevin Pardoe how so? Please explain
English Somm Kevin Pardoe Didnt think so
Mike Cross everyone has to be a victim at some point. They are a casualty of “fame”. Satanic nuns seem to be a top seller these days according to these comments. I watched them live and the vocals were terrible. Almost like she was just aimlessly yelling sexually charged nonsense. It’s not shocking or new and it’s been done before!! Except this time it was a flop.
Wanna be’s
Eddie Hardison 🤡
Eddie Hardison shut the hell up homie, you have no fucking clue
Douglas Lopes oh yeah I’ve been jaming 50 + years you have no clue they are rip off wanna bes .yup
Eddie Hardison 🤣 so dogma has been around 50 plus years? Yeah you’re pretty fucking dumb
Eddie Hardison you don’t even fucking know who they are 😂 again shut the hell up
Eddie Hardison I personally know the lead guitarist and believe me, she is a finer musician than 95 % of the men guitarists out there including those who’ve been jamming for 50+ years ! So, yeah, until you know what you’re talking about, STFU !
The Mystic Euphoria Project lmao dont take much for the M.E. project
Eddie Hardison You STILL don’t have a fucking clue but keep being a dbag homie!
I’m loving this crash and burn!
Poser’s band
Willy Zapata 🤡
I don’t know if it’s the sites being really slow delivering the news or the guitarist just needs to let it go, because it’s starting to grow tiresome, tedious and monotonous
#notmydogma
I hope.
The other 3 they all get together.Inform a new band
Is this all u have to worry about in life they’re still great give them a chance
Form a new group and f*** the managenent….you have the support of your fans. Also make sure you dedicate your first song to the previous management…rock on
Nobody cares
On one hand you have a whiner that was most likely wronged, but also should’ve had her work visa taken care of, that’s her responsibility not anyone else’s
Then the other hand, whoever manages the band is an incompetent moron who ruined a great band, and because their identities were hidden they’re easily replaceable
Whatever the cases may be, Dogma is dead
Justin Owens dogma is dead, however it is part of the responsibility of the tour manager to arrange all the customs, make sure visas are in order, know the laws of the country they are entering, duty, tax, etc… before the tour begins for all countries your tour stops at. If there’s an issue that person is replaced BEFORE the tour begins not during.
Powerful words Petri.
By my count this makes 14 ex members, so far..
Hate to see this. This band was headed up.
They literally are satanic nuns… 😂
How could anything go wrong?? 😂
Went from kick ass to nothing special
Sounds like band management just wants money over anything else.
Form ya own band girls
And all the free publicity they’re getting? They’ve got it all figured out, these Temuco people.
A guy who only wants money will end up ruining a band that I think had a good future, and Patri is right to expose all that crap. I wish all those who are out would tell the truth; that’s how you can be someone, even if it’s because of a… well, there you have it.
Yeah they should have fired their management, and kept the band together, so disappointed i loved them as they were will never be the same and will absolutely lose their fan base.
Leonard Beaudoin they couldn’t fire him from his own company. He owns the name, recordings and all the rights.
They should have sacked their manager
I hate reading this. The musicianship was/is really good, but clearly something was amiss. The music was far too eclectic to be one band. I hope the musicians find happiness with their extraordinary talent in a real band.
So many female artist approached over the last few year to audition for this project. Some turned down flat. Some negotiated. Some signed on the dotted line. Dogma are not the first or will they be the last put together group of performers. Hope the ladies who are currently in the line up given a chance to bloom, & hope management have taken notice of the condemnation of their fans to treat them with respect, dignity & fairly going forward. Also hope the ex’s have a chance to flourish & move forward & find further success.
Ok a cover band like Metallica
Jari Jurvanen …Lip syncing like Milli Vanilli
David Morningsky well if they did do that before, their not now, I saw them last night instruments turned up higher low vocals. Covering the lack of power n range of the vocalist.
Chris Taylor get your ass up on stage then
Get together and start your own band
Just when the sucking gets good, they stop sucking lol 😝
Damn
That’s what I say and call it amgod
Bill you beat me to it; I agree
Nothing better than the original 4 member lineup.
All you haters have never been in a band that dealt with this shit. I took over as a manager for a band due to the asshole they had refused to pay them, and got them low budget gigs in some shitty places.
They fired them and found me a year later through a friend. I got them better gigs and they did good for years. Not sure what happen to them now but it was something that never should have happened to them
this is the same pattern as kpop group. nothing new here, but manager are stupid to not be aware of aftermath with all the social network…when you wanna built a gimmick band take care of your artist…if not the backlash will destroy your project.
Not a Band just a name. Girls with instruments dancing to backing tracks.
To be clear on this topic… no blame on the lady’s. The thing is, and I didn’t make this up, that it is a project driven by a (male) producer. It’s not a band in a traditional way more a casting group like the spice girls. Nothing special in a pop music bubble but barely accepted in the rock music world (for good reason).
I love Rusalka
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Women
Was excited to see this band in person now it might be a pass
My thoughts as well. Put the new band out on the streets
Really nobody with a sane mind can see Dogma as a real Band. Nobody cares about their musical talent, which is really below average.
Bottomline, the chicks which just were let go are complete dumbfuxxs. They have a contract, NOBODY needs al lawyer to see, that this is just wrong. Yet they still signed it.
The truth is, they wanted to get out of their meaninglessness Instagram life and wanted to jump on the faster running “Dogma-Train”. now that didn’t work out that well, did it? And now it is everybody else’s fault, but not their own stupidity to sign something like that contract.
I am not defending the “management”, but simply see it more realistic than most commenters.
The whole project is about showing skin and meat while doing some obscene movements. That all in some nun-costumes to put the icing on the cake. yeah right, sounds perfect like empowerment and feminism.
The first mini-porn i saw on Super 8 in the late 70s was basically nuns with white faces being banged up…
If anybody really believes, that Dogma is anything else than a Soft-Porn project with bad kindergarten-metal on a stage, probably also believes that the stripper from the last club-visit really really liked them…
Should name and shame the management… so other recognise them. Also agree, there is definitely room for a real dogma.
Sounds like it’s not really a band, more of a project with musicians hired to fill roles, making someone else’s vision a reality, rather than a true band.
Ok here’s the problem. The more everyone goes out and supports them by going to their shows buying their merch the more they’re gonna keep doing it to these women . 
Exploitive contrived image rock at its finest
Is it just me or does everyone get a little “Chubb” when seeing a sexy dressed evil nun !?? Think maybe the 12 forced years of Catholic school and beatings by the nuns scarred us for life. 😋😜
Cry me a river….dont be surprise when you sing psalms to demons and find yourself in their company!
I say poetic justice. Burn their records…
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