The underground metal community is buzzing over controversy surrounding the recent Metal Threat Festival, which took place in Chicago, IL from October 2–5. The festival drew attention for its stacked lineup of international underground acts—and for the wave of cancellations that followed when several bands were denied U.S. visas just weeks before the event.
The situation intensified when festival organizers added American band Arghoslent as an initially unnamed headliner. The band is widely known for featuring racist themes in their lyrics and imagery, making them a highly controversial inclusion. Nearly 40 other bands had already committed to traveling to Chicago, many with additional U.S. tour dates booked through Metal Threat. Most upheld their end of the deal and performed, as did Arghoslent.
The controversy escalated when Bay Area death metal band Ripped To Shreds announced they were canceling their Berkeley, CA show with veteran death metal act Master, citing Master’s participation at Metal Threat alongside Arghoslent. Notably, the bands did not perform on the same day, and for Master, it was just one show on a 26-date U.S. tour.

Frontman Andrew Lee explained on Facebook:
“Refusing to play with a neonazi band like Arghoslent that glorifies the black slave trade is the lowest possible bar and Master still failed it, so we’re withdrawing from Friday’s show at @924gilmanstreet. Support to @bitterendbooking for doing the right thing and canceling the show.”
The post went viral, leading to the Berkeley show’s cancellation and subsequent impacts on Master’s tour.
Adding context, the Facebook page Metal Hypocrites published the following statement regarding the situation:
“Andrew Lee of Ripped to Shreds cancels Master for appearing with Arghoslent while releasing albums with members of Arghoslent. The current chatter in the underground surrounds the controversial Metal Threat Festival, which took place in Chicago, October 2–5, with a slew of international underground acts. It drew plenty of attention for its dream lineup and the rash of cancellations that followed, as many bands were denied their U.S. visas just weeks ahead of the show. The promoter doubled down on controversy a few weeks before the event by adding the American band Arghoslent as an initially unnamed headliner. There’s no way to soft-pedal the fact that this band is controversial, as they have featured racist content to different degrees in their lyrics and presentation. That’s a story unto itself. What’s relevant here is that nearly 40 other bands agreed to travel to Chicago from around the world to perform before Arghoslent was announced. Many of them had additional American tour dates booked through Metal Threat as well. So when it came to the event, it looks like most of the
The following Monday, local Bay Area band Ripped to Shreds announced they were canceling their Berkeley appearance with veteran death metal act Master because the latter didn’t decline to appear at Metal Threat with Arghoslent on the bill. Keep in mind that Master was on a 26-date American tour, and Metal Threat was just one show on the schedule. It’s also worth noting they didn’t appear on the same day with Arghoslent. To them, it was just another gig.
Nevertheless, Andrew Lee of Ripped to Shreds stated on Facebook: “Refusing to play with a neonazi band like Arghoslent that glorifies the black slave trade is the lowest possible bar and Master still failed it, so we’re withdrawing from Friday’s show at @924gilmanstreet support to @bitterendbooking for doing the right thing and canceling the show.” The post grew legs, and the Berkeley show was canceled altogether. Then subsequent Master tour dates were also canceled in the wake of the controversy.
You may be thinking, ‘So what? A band played on a festival with a yucky Nazi band, got called out, and are now rightfully taking heat for it.’ Well here’s where it gets interesting. Andrew Lee co-owns a label called Nameless Grave Records with fellow metal musician Brandon Corsair. Brandon has supported his label partner by also emphatically endorsing Master’s cancellation on social media. The duo have several releases out, including multiple re-releases and current recordings from a power metal band called Twisted Tower Dire. The reason this is significant is because this band features previous and active members of Arghoslent.
Check out provided screencaps, courtesy of Metal Archives. TTD’s drummer Marc Stauffer formerly played in Arghoslent, and former TTD and current Arghoslent guitarist Nick Murtaugh recorded on the albums Nameless Grave re-issued while he was in Arghoslent AND the band all Good People™️ love to hate, Grand Belial’s Key.
Guys, really? You took the moral high ground to bash a long-running (and left-leaning) band like Master, and you’re effectively in business with the same horrible band they made the mistake of being adjacent to on a fest? Did you think no one would notice? Apparently!
Brandon Corsair also admitted privately on Facebook Messenger: ‘I literally own Arghoslent vinyl. I just wouldn’t like, post that shit.’
Is there such a thing as a triple standard? It seems like it is being invented in Brandon Corsair’s DMs.
In the meantime, Andrew Lee recently posted a video on his YouTube channel called, ‘How Heavy Metal Upholds White Supremacy.’ Considering the time and money Andrew Lee has spent on colluding with members of an openly white supremacist band, he’s technically correct.
I don’t like Arghoslent. Their music and message are shitty, and there’s an easy case to be made for their condemnation. But the people making that case better be on the right side of it, especially before defaming a non-affiliated working band whose reputation and livelihood was damaged in the process. Master did not give any members of Arghoslent money. Master never produced or promoted any music attached to Arghoslent. But Andrew Lee and Brandon Corsair sure did. Who should we really be looking at in this scenario?”









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RIPPED TO SHREDS’ Andrew Lee Criticized for Master Cancellation and Label Ties to Arghoslent Members
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The Mosh Network spelled ‘Bay Area Posers’ wrong.
The Mosh Network I’ve yet to get a reply from Andrew. My friends cant see my comment. I swear if I’m being shadow banned by this cuck.
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Well well well
I personally know the members of Master. Best stand up hard working dudes around. Keep slaying Ruston Grosse & Pat Shea and others
Ron Smith exactly. This guy is posturing unnecessarily. If you wanna die on that ledge, you’d be stuck listening to Rush.
Katherine Smith wrong, NME called them fascist in the seventies lol
Matt Balousek haha amazing
Ron Smith You rule brother! Love you
Ruston Grosse Love you too brother
YE WHO SMELT IT , DELT IT.
this is the most Bay area California dog shit I’ve ever seen
Jamothy McHuggins wtf does that have to do with anything? I build the place and clean up after all the weirdos there. You should thank me
Tony Baloney You clean up after rich kids with too much free time and I should thank you? Eat my asshole, homie
Jamothy McHuggins ew I don’t wanna kiss you, effing weirdo. I can secure you a VIP seat in the pit of my outhouse so my family can slowly disappear you in our feces. 😂
You read too much dog shit articles that aren’t real, perhaps you can consider that youre wrong bc youve never been there or know wtf you’re even talking about…pretty irrelevant as well. Its Probably the only thing you can claw at, yet don’t realize how sick it is, me and my family have a great time with all the other metal heads, metal camps, and all the cool shit that’s there. Poser! 😂
Jamothy McHuggins why are you protecting the people that start bullshit click bait PR STUNTS, whilst making money off distributing a white supremacists bands side project? Why are you in support of this? Are you a Nazi sympathizer bud? Do you think it’s cool that all the major metal media outlets just gave the Nazi bands and their profiteers an enormous amount of publicity, possibly spreading their hateful, half assed music to a younger and larger audience? Are you concerned that maybe the Nazi bands and associated label will sell more of their albums and create more Nazis? I sure am. Maybe you should reconsider this before you get cancelled for being a fascist twat rag
Tony Baloney I have been, it’s just rich kids and lames
Jamothy McHuggins naw that’s who you chose to associate with, proof of bad taste.
Tony Baloney I am anti-fascist, and enjoy the band RTS. Sorry, you can’t deflect, and gaslight me. Gaslighting only works if I’m not as smart as you, your continued attendance at Burning Man says more than any aptitude test ever could
Tony Baloney Anyone who attends Burning Man is lame as fuck
Jamothy McHuggins lol bro you don’t even have a clue. RTS? Ripped to shit? The guy that literally presses and sells the Nazi bands side project? Or is it okay to you?
Sounds like sympathy to me
Tony Baloney Name one Nazi side project he pressed and sold
Reich Testicle Suckers?
Jamothy McHuggins read the article under this thread? My lordy you are special
Tony Baloney Yea, if I’m being honest, metal is rife with Nazi shit, so, I am gonna chalk it up to “had no idea until after the pressing.”
Jamothy McHuggins gaslight you??? 😂🤣 Yo you deflected the entire topic of this thread to resort to some low blow ad hominem attacks bc your butthurt you just found out your a fascist sympathizing sucker. And of course they all say “nooooo, not meeeeee” ooooofffffff
Tony Baloney here ya go, Burning Bro
https://www.metalsucks.net/2025/10/11/ripped-to-shreds-andrew-lee-responds-to-master-controversy/?fbclid=IwZnRzaANXp8hleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHvfa2_xdtfyaHy4-6rX5uPPymFhWyswVX4Yv1usjCQ8FBXDH46BHhbmN_hL8_aem_RI41BHXdSUOIG_zNBEhVaA
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Wow. Did he really think no one would find this out? 😆
Calvin Mathis yes he did lol
Calvin Mathis
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Wow
Saying master are nazis is one the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever heard
Imagine coming for Paul and Master for this shit.
Dan Lawson guy obviously knows NOTHING about metal. I always thought metal was supposed to offend people. Guy should go play that Christian death metal shit he ruins this scene
Gary Seelman I don’t know there’s a lot of really good Christian death metal so I don’t think he would be able to cut that. But he does have this Lolicon Goregrind band (houkago grind time) and openly posts this on his main band’s page
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Jm Cave WTF??? That dude must have a hard drive history he’s covering for.
Dan Wrathburn that’s what im saying!!
Jm Cave f*ck me guy has to be a pdfile
Jeff Lawson exactly
Dan Lawson IDK Speckmann always had this “legend in his own mind” attitude about himself all these years.
Don’t get me wrong, I fucking love the band but him playing on the same bill with a straight up neo-nazi band wasn’t a particularly good look.
That said, I think Andrew Lee could’ve handled this a bit better too (though it introduce me to Ripped to Shreds, which fucking kicks ass in its own right).
Jacob Michael Abate the supposed Nazi band don’t even play in the same fuckin day. Stfu
Jacob Michael Abate andrew lee supports the exact same neonazis in releasing their power metal bands.
Jacob Michael Abate bit of a Freudian slip there in the final sentence there champ?
Zow Tomas fucking mobile posting typos, lol.
Shocker. 🙄
GookOid mad 🤣
Justin Oliver you sound like a retarded pedophile
Rosalyn Agatha Bellsprout how tf did you get pedo from that comment?
Daniel Burks
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Rosalyn Agatha BellsproutProject harder bitch 🤣
Looks like the type of cunt who would pull a bitch made move like that.
HYPOCRITE
Cvnt!!!!
Dipshit should do a little research before hopping on his little pedestal.
Lmfao woopsies.
This guy made his band irrelevant while attempting to be relevant. Nice work!
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS FAG?
Dude was standing up for what he believed in. Anyone defending the nazi band are fucking douchebags.
you read the article?? This guy does business with the band he wants us to cancel. If he really believes what he says then he wouldn’t be doing business with the Nazis he wants us to cancel.
Jacob Michael Abate run to your safe space, twat.
David Cantu more like I invaded yours, lmfao.
Jacob Michael Abate You should really finish that transition, you still look like you’re mid-surgery, lost your balls already for sure.
Something funny about Nazis trying to bring up the TTD tie in when the person in question left the band as soon as their lyrical themes shifted and it happened 30 years ago
Jeff Taft shut up Nazi
Brian Frechette “Not uh, you’re the real Nazis, not the guys with songs about the Transatlantic slave trade!” Okay loser
Jeff Taft so we can have songs about murder,rape, torture,genocide etc. but mention the slave trade and everyone loses their mind..
Shane Jack Harmston I mean, there’s a little more to it than that, but go off locked profile man
Jeff Taft why you trying to stalk me, im just stating its wierd. To be honest ive never heard of any of these bands, but i dont chase extreme music for the lyrical content.
Jeff Taft why are locked profiles an insult?
Shane Jack Harmston you should learned the difference between a hypothetical individual and a marginalized group of people
Casper Eleam, wait, are we talking about the Jews that ran the slave trade, or the slaves?
Casper Eleam do you support ukraine or palestine?
Colin Williams They’re hilarious to see from people trying to be Billy Badass on the internet, that’s all.
Jeff Taft so this band is Khazarian?
Jeff Taft He knowingly joined a band that have always been Nazis.
Jeff Taft I think that’s the entire point is that it’s a reach. Just like Master (and many other famous death metal bands) playing on the 4th day of the festival with argho on it is also a reach.
Jeff Taft Like RTS set the standard for reaching here
Jeff Taft Yes, the drummer left after it took him 7 years to figure out he didn’t agree with the lyrics. There was no lyrical shift, the name Arghoslent means fortress slave and the band was originally called Pogrom. He fucking knew the whole time, there’s no way he didn’t. All that said the guitarist that has also worked with TTD is still in Arghoslent, and was at the time he worked with TTD. So the connection between his label and Arghoslent is inseparable.
Defiled Graves Distribution Nazis trying to finger other people as Nazis because they’re crybabies over being called Nazis is hilarious.
Not how it happened but you gave it the good ole college try!
Jeff Taftit’s still a double standard dipshit, go fuck yourself. Probably a Stalin fan aren’t you? Good ol’USSR! Hey, at least it’s not a Nazi, sooo much better, only a few more million people killed! Hypocrites!
Jeff Taft there are current members too. And it’s still more telling than Master just playing at the same festival. I hope Lee gets shunned the rest of his career. So he has more time to sit at home post those weird anime scat memes he loves so much.
John Bittola A current member of Arghoslent played on a TTD demo 30 years ago. You guys are such weirdos
Jeff Taft just as much a reach as andrew Lee calling out master for playing the same festival. It’s a shame we got all these virtue signaling upsetti spaghettis in heavy music.
Look at this fuckin nerd. Man, “death metal” has really fallen on hard times as of late. All of these PC dipshits on a cancelling spree. How can you be part of a musical genre that glorifies death and destruction, and be such an absolute pussy? 😂
lol the other owner is in Drawn and Quartered with ex Infester dudes. Infester were another Nazi death metal band and had connections to MEAT SHITS which wrote “Sniper At The Fag Parade” along with a bunch of other right wing schlock. These people are hypocrites that use their media connections to punch down on working class people. Fuck ALL OF THEM
Clown
What a punchable face.
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Nothing but a publicity stunt and it has worked.
The fact that so many people are up in arms about a couple of NS bands that played on the bill is ridiculous. There is a much bigger elephant in the room when it comes to the bands who played Metal Threat. No one seems to care about the fact that a person who indulges in CP also had their band play the fest. I think a bigger stance should be taken against someone who is known to have possessed child exploitation material than a couple of Neo-Nazi bands. Or is CP acceptable to these posers? I’ve heard this Andy Lee bloke has posted a few questionable anime things on his socials at some point, so maybe that is the case. Better check his HDD’s.
Leigh Armstrong is the CP thing in relation to Inquisition? I feel like they only got a slap on the wrist for their vocalist admitting to watching that shit.
Phil Addington yep. I agree, there was fuck all repurcussions. Imo, anyone who has a problem with the NS scene and not that guy need their morals questioned.
Leigh Armstrong from what I heard from a friend who went a lot of people were very annoyed that they were there and felt it wasn’t a good billing.
People should be pissed about it. I’m not for cancel culture or anything like that but if these bitches complaining about NS bands are more concerned about words than the actual harm of innocent children then they really need to sit back and have a good hard look at themselves. Dagon should have suffered the Phil Kusabs treatment imo. Everyone was boycotting Vassafor when that come to light. There’s no excuse imo.
Lol don’t be racist simple.
Never heard of them.
Goof piece of shit
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 moron
His twin sister
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I enjoy Ripped to Shreds but this whole thing reeks of cornball behavior
Dude thought he’d get liberal cuck points by calling out a band mid tour that played a different day as another band and then it all backfired on him
I was disappointed he didn’t shout, “METAR SO LACIST!!!! YOU SO STUPID!!!” in his video.
Edwin Oslan lmao
This guy sucks.
So sick of hearing about this band I’ve never heard of before
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Eddy Vaerwater Educate yourself. They kick ass. Latest album is a masterpiece.
This is why anyone who tries to impose themselves as my moral compass gets laughed at.
Ripped To Shreds tried ruining a bands livelihood. They ended up ruining their own career
a member that disavowed arghoslent
hack ass journalism lol
Ben James after 6 years. Hack ass comment.
Finally he put on sleeves!!!
Imagine trying to be a tough guy while not having on sleeves and dropping off a bill instead of going to bash a bunch of nazis- what a fuckin tool!
Brian Frechette The guy would straight up piss his pants if he ever encountered ACTUAL neo-nazis.
Brian Frechette it’s like how everyone ignores FSU kicking Nazis out of the Boston Hardcore scene and all anyone ever talks about is the guy from Bolt Thrower doing crank and running away like a bitch after hitting a neo-nazi in the back of the head with a baseball bat in New Jersey.
Phil Addington I remember when the skinhead Moby got his ass kicked. Gold.
I guess the tons of great SE Asian bands don’t count as Asians to him. Let’s not forget all the killer brown-skinned bands from Mexico and Central/South America either.
Tetragrammacide and Genocide Shrines are more popular in the global underground than any “Asian” bands since Sabbat, Sigh, Abigail, and Intestine Baalism, and certainly more so than his own shitty project, but I guess you don’t count as Asian if your eyes don’t chink.
Jeff Lawson tetragrammacide is fucking horrible though.
Brian McDonald I agree lol.
Hahahaha….shocking how things can turn around that fast and bite you in the ass.
Everyone is a Nazi except for me…
It’s so funny how fragile metalheads are when someone criticises them for hanging out with Nazis
Cancel Ripped to Shreds!
Says who? 🤷🏻♂️
Weak AF
Finally. Been waiting for any news source to post this.
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Dean Humble how dare they stick to their values
No one gives a damn about this pretentious fag and his criticizms.
I’m sure Master really gives a shit what this nerd thinks
Dude in internet famous band creates drama to expedite more clicks, then gets called out for being a hypocrite. Ohhh the horror!! Another week in weak metal.
Aaron Dallison is it Tuesday already?
Kristoff Bates Tuesdays gone with the wind.
Moving back to Cbus next week… up an Olympic brunch so we can make fun of all this hahahaha
Who cares what this soft nobody thinks
Master and Arghoslent are a million times better then his slop.
Homie got RIPPED APART 🤣
Robert Albarran RIPPED TO SHREDS
F*g
No one cares. Lame drama queens.
We need to hit posers back
Whole lotta dipshits in this comment section proving him right
He’s an idiot, there are so many great asian death metal/grind bands out there, i’ve lost count just looking at the malaysian ones.
W.p.o.s.
Schiekron Mangod ? Stands for?
This guy seemed a bit too sanctimonious, seems like he doesn’t have a sense of humor at all. Glad to see him knocked down a few pegs.
Grow a beard and eat a steak. I’m
Sorry that your dad didn’t raise you right.
CK Lee Be culturally sensitive, his kind can’t grow a beard.
I’m not discriminating.
Good.
Kinda funny how the article missed the part where the associated member’s metal archives page says why he left
Jonathan Wade It seems like Nick Murtaugh is a current member of Arghoslent, while also being featured on Lees label through Twisted Tower Dire.
Theres also screenshots of a co-owner of Lees label, (who also denounced Master) saying he owns Arghoslent vinyl but he doesnt post it.
So, how do you defend that?
Matthew Bradford I don’t follow the band at all but it doesn’t look like any of the releases he was on were released by the label. They were all in the 90s. If they rereleased those albums then yeah that’d be an issue, but having a sketchy member almost 30 years ago?
Owning a vinyl from an openly racist band is goofy more than anything. I’m not gonna defend or excuse it in any way but its also not some huge smoking gun
Jonathan Wade Neither was Master playing Metal Threat. But if you’re going to play 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon, dont be surprised when people do it back.
Jonathan Wade Thats fair.
Andrew Sutton even without the last minute arghoslent thing metal threats has been known to book Nazi bands. Playing a fest like that is pretty different from having a band on your label that has a member who quit a racist band 30 years ago because he disagreed with their racism. That doesn’t mean I think master should be canceled or labeled racists or anything. I don’t know anything about their beliefs. It’s just a weak comparison
Jonathan Wade What nazi bands did Metal Threat book pre-2025? I went and looked at previous lineups and nothing obvious popped out at me.
Jonathan Wadewhy is owning an album cause of the bands views goofy? You’re the good fucktard. Don’t know how many bands you enjoy reverts or have other shit going on? Anything from Bad Brains to Bowie is arguably problematic. Such damn hypocrites.
Jonathan Wade He knowingly joined a band that have always been Nazis
Jonathan Wade after 6 years, you goof.
Hank Moody so from 1990-1996 when he was much younger he had really shitty views and grew out of them. Darkthrone had that silly “Aryan black metal” or whatever text on an album, apologized, and moved on and only the most terminally online radlibs ever bring it up. Who cares?
Jonathan Wade kinda funny how you’re acting like this is a GOTCHA when he was STILL IN THE FUCKING BAND, wasn’t he?!
Jonathan Wade now now, to be fair we can’t expect fuckin dimwits to know things
Professional cum dumpster
Let me see if I got this right: Master don’t have anything to do with that controversial band, they didn’t even played in the same day and we’re booked BEFORE that band was even cast to the festival, and this Andrew guy went after THEM???
What an absolute piece of shit
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Mikey Ren Arghoslent are literally Nazis, dumbass.
Total douchebag soy Millennial hypocrite!
By Arghoslent members you mean the guy that left the band like 30 years ago because they started talking about white supremacist shit in their songs? Nice stretch.
Gabriel Bouchard They’ve always been Nazis
Gabriel Bouchard hey fat boy, he was in the band for 6 years.
Hank Moody hey capybara in front of a computer, that’s still just one album.
What an utter shock! Holier than thou vultures trying to score points and money at someone else’s expense are even bigger pieces of crap! Who could have seen this coming? Guess they never realized you shouldn’t throw stones in a glass house lol.
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Luc Curtis goddammit that’s hilarious 🤣
Fernando Garcia
I grew up on dead Kennedys and burzum, both jello and Varg are knobs but I enjoy the music.
Pointless and performative virtue signaling on his part. No one cares if his band was there or not.
Tye Doubt Performative is a stupid f*cking word in the context these same c*nts brought to the fore in the last ten years.
Metal is about hate, anger, violence, insanity, death, satan, etc etc. Go listen to Reggae.
Eshay Brah it does seem like things are getting more insane the past several years
Dave Goresuch yes. Clones, Lizards, smart dust etc
#CancelCancelCulture this goes for all of us
Huh?
Was looking forward to seeing Master today… I’ve known Speckmann for years and this is bullshit. Marduk had to deal with the same shit here with bitches threatening the Metro with riots because they adding about war. So much for freedom of speech.
Zack Alter
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Still happening
Zack Alter new location
Luis Javier Flores of course i didn’t see this till now… damnit
Ya’ll eat your own 🤦🏻♂️😂
Trapt
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Go play a dive bar.
Mike Cox go eat what your named after, the x isn’t fooling anyone💀🤣
Michael Riley oh wow what a good one so original.
Mike Cox It’s still new to me.  I haven’t heard it my whole life like you.
Michael Riley good for you poser.
Mike Cox ooo called me a poser let me tell you how bad that hurts. Are you done?
Trapt no, we all eat your mom.
Trapt y’all lucky Greystone covered Headstrong.
Trapt why are you even here? We are discussing metal. Your band isn’t metal it’s music for people to fist their own ass to. Now go fuck off somewhere. Fucking nerd. “Headstrong” lol. Fucking bitch made is more like it.
Trapt Watch out for Ice T
Trapt 7 reacts,
Too funny,
Coincidently the same amount of people at your last show,
You fucking bootlicking clown.
Careful out there Chris,
Protect your neck.
Trapt HEADSTRONG ILL TAKE YOU ON
I am in no way defending nazi bands. But in 2002 I went to a show Arghoslent played with Nunslaughter and a few other bands with zero neo-facist ties. And no one cared. Most of the audience had no idea who Arghoslent was and rolled their eyes at anything they said that was obviously racially intolerant. Today it would turn into a viral tiktok because someone in that crowd would start live streaming it.
Craig Schlanger it was quite different back then. Argho was in every second zine alongside all the other popular bands at the time. GBK was on Barbarian Wrath label, who are not that way leaning -at all-. Both bands were publicly sold in many distros…
Karl Rogers Oh, I completely agree. I saw GBK in PA in 2001 with Demoncy, Krieg, Vital Remains and a few other bands I can’t remember, but were all pretty well known back then. Hell, GBK even played CBGBs.
Karl Rogers PEOPLE where completely different back then 😅
Craig Schlanger Nunslaughter has a split with Grand Belial’s Key and nobody cares haha
Starside Relics Damn good split, too.
Starside Relics that’s because everyone knows Don would just tell them to go suck a dick somewhere.
Craig Schlanger your scene must be a bunch of p****** because anyone saying some shit like that anywhere I fuckin grew up would have gotten a taste of the curb
Nathan Richardson from who? You? My dick gets harder than you can punch.
Matthew Suave yes I single handedly beat up everybody all by myself you fuckin r tard. Omg what a dumbass thing to say especially to just start talking about your goof ass little dick hahahahahahaha bite the curb lil bro
Nathan Richardson Ok. Show was in Queens, NY. Not exactly a scene known for being a nazi stronghold or accepting of such things.
Nathan Richardson Uh huh…yeah.. sure.
Craig SchlangerCraig Schlanger im in no way defending nazi band…what a bitch.
Craig Schlanger what did they say?
I opened for Master in the late nineties, and they had a black drummer. If I recall his name was Sage
Cam Pinkerton Sage is such a cool dude 🤘
Paul Sokol is he on facebook?
Cam Pinkerton he sure is!
Cam Pinkerton I wonder why he left
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Pantifa Tears!!
OPE
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Fake woke
That’s all these scenes are
I’ll use post like this if I ever have to defend myself against a group of you for wrong think
Donald Trump no trust Master. Master Assah-hooo.
Isn’t this the guy that said that metal has a white supremacy problem?
Kamil Muzyka yup, watched his YouTube video, about 2 mins.
Then he says “Music is INHERENTLY political.”
I stopped right there.
Total virtue signaling soy boy behavior.
Stephan Hoffmann I always love when one time I hear “A thing was always anti-racist”, and the other time it’s “A thing is actually based on white supremacy”. Like how Harry Potter is both an anti-racist fantasy series that is deeply problematic due to strongly racist (bioessentialist) undertones. But let us wait a while to hear that the global proliferation of metal should ne viewed from the colonialist perspective and as means imperial blah blah blah… 😉
Stephan Hoffmann I could write a song about a sandwich and this guy would try to say the song is political. Heck, I wrote a song about a guy who was in love with cheese. How in the hell is that political?
Eric May Since you obviously have comprehension skills of a hamster, let me make this a bit clearer for you. He’s not saying that the lyrics to your dumb ass song about a guy who is in love with cheese are inherently political, but he’s referring to the music scene as a whole. Its ethos, or the underlying set of values that shape the beliefs and actions of its members. For example, rebellion against the establishment, be it political, economic, or religious, is one of the defining characteristics of a wider metal subculture, and this in an of itself is a political, or at least ideological statement, but depending on the individual scene member’s personal beliefs, which are largely shaped by their environment, this rebellion can manifest itself in variety of ways. That’s why there are some metalheads who are leftists, while others are neo-nazi, racist dipshits.
Goran Tešić So if my song about the guy who loves cheese is a song in metal, then that also includes it as part of the scene as a whole. You could equally include bands like Green Jelly in that. The scene means the entire scene, yes – even the funny stuff. If it isn’t all political, then the scene isn’t strictly political. Maybe give that one a ponder for a while.
Eric May You really are thick, aren’t you? I just explained to you that it’s not about your stupid song per se, but about the broader subculture, which completely independently of your stupid song, is based around a certain ethos that all of us in it loosely share. We all, or at least most of us, dress a certain way, wear our hair long or in a variety of unusual ways, most of our music is intentionally abrasive, we dance by moshing and kicking each other’s asses in the pit, and we all share a loose set of values and principles that intentionally demarcate our little subculture from the norms of the dominant culture, and all of this is inherently political, or at least ideological in nature.
Goran Tešić There is no certain ethos we all loosely share. Jesus Christ, some people want things to mean more than they are to justify their own ridiculous perception of the world. Metal’s just metal. There’s more than enough songs out there in this genre about rocking out and having a good time as there is anything political. It’s a big old split.
If you got into metal just to supplant your politics, then maybe you chose the wrong genre. I love metal for the sound, the groove, the melodies, the solos, the drum acrobatics, the thunder of the bass and of course the vocals. There’s just as much non-political generally fun metal out there as there is politically charged stuff. And not everyone in this genre wants to be affiliated with politics. Have you ever thought that some of us listen to this stuff to get away from all the damn politics? Yeah, well, we’re part of this community too.
Kamil Muzyka yes. I saw that video pop up earlier on my YouTube feed
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The answer is simple: do not support a band you do not support. At this point I will not support RTS because to me it seems they are news jacking to promote their own band.
Down syndrome genes
Who really gives a shit about any of this lame drama?
Good chance the dipshits trying to dictate which bands we should or shouldn’t see have no idea who these ladies are and what they represented. 🤣
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We need more scene police in metal. 🤡
Stender Skum agreed, been hearing about alot of SA happening at shows and tons of bullies from left and right wing trying to turn it into a dorky political battlefield and then canceling bands they dont like. Kinda like this shit head
Luciano Angelo DeMarco I just want to hear nasty riffs and escape from reality not have it reinforced.
Corpsegrinder wearing a’ slent shirt isn’t real, he can’t hurt you.
Corpsegrinder wearing a ‘slent shirt:
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Wes Rich wow lol
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Wes Rich great now all the nerds are going to try cancel Corpsegrinder. The nicest guy in the world.
His 15 minutes of fame will be over by the weekend.
Billy Chiaradio you must not be familiar with his career then, he’s a fairly prolific guitarist.
Tom Sirianni music career, sure. Music journalist, nope.
Eric May why would the author of the article care about fifteen minutes of fame? You don’t make any sense.
Tom Sirianni He’s trying to get in big with metal media.
Eric May they’re already writing for a metal outlet and this is how journalism works, what are you on about?
Tom Sirianni You don’t understand. So he wants to get as big as he can in the media in general, so you start with metal media and work your way up like another insufferable journalist who I had the misfortune of sharing the scene back in the 10’s did. Journalism is an industry and you work your way up the rungs. They wouldn’t let me play ball back in the 10’s so I was working my way up and then voluntarily climbed back down and handed the reigns over to a very successful heavy metal YouTuber and former affiliate of mine. Andrew’s got the right politics, he’ll play the game and now we’ll be hearing from him for quite a bit. You can bet on that.
Eric May the article was not written by Andrew, Andrew is the guitarist. These are two different people and you seem very confused.
Tom Sirianni Alright, so it is obvious to me that Andrew wants to be in that position though. Slowly but surely we will see more of his opinions until he becomes a larger part of metal media. Yes, he didn’t write this article but it definitely has a lot to do with him and his opinions of the scene. We’re going to continue to get more of these in the future.
Eric May oh my god get a grip man, political musician had a political opinion, this isn’t a conspiracy.
Tom Sirianni No one said conspiracy. This is just business. You must not get how this industry works.
Eric May Yeah, that c*nt from Krieg, Crab Claw Kelly, they all knew and played the game. This chink…I mean chump is only the latest in a long line of self-righteous grifters.
Andrew Lee and his mangina got Ripped to Shreads… 🤣
Jussie Smollett metal
Carmine Capodimonte Good one:)
Rob Myers I try.😎
Carmine Capodimonte
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The Truth ?
Nobody gives a shit about mr who the fuck Is this idiot.
Only trolls and politically correct posers are feeding this topic.
Buy more records , attend more gigs and break less balls bunch of snowflake pussies.
And i’ve been around the metal world since the last 25 years, fuck me , i’m getting old but i’ve never seen so much idiots speaking without a cause
Andrew lee hitler
Why is everyone giving this retard a platform?
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Fuck this little crybaby bitch
Fuckin stupid
Sorry but who?
Hadn’t heard of or heard either bands until today.
Reminder that Seth Putnam would call this whole situation gay
Incredibly tenuous stretch of a fallacious, thinly veiled wp propagandized argument. I won’t click this link, fash deserve no financial recompense.
WHO?
NPC Varg seeing that
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Fuck all that master rules !!! Killer band !!! Awesome guys
It’s almost like people should learn how to pick battles.
I have no skin in this game but Interesting how this bit is being purposely left out
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And Grand Belials Key members. He is a hypocrite, but I’m sure he has some excuse
Der Sturmer t-shirt would fit him better
Nazar Bezusenko Or a TayTay shirt, bless his heart 🤣
Never heard of him
Arghoslent fukn rule
Imagine being such a loser that you don’t like Arghoslent.
What a tool 😅
Absolute cognitive dissonance on these roaches
I look forward to metal being replaced by wood over the next couple of years due to people being offended by the genre as a whole. 😆
,,|,, Poser ,,|,,
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Dumbass.
Arghoslent sends Ripped to shreds home on a stretcher…Andrew Lee is a pussy and should stfu
My band sings songs about dogs and fish and buzzards and taking too much acid and Dr. Satan and me being fat. Just thought I’d mention that since it has absolutely nothing to do with this post! 👊🏻🤘🏻
As It Festers
I am intrigued 😋
Infidel Amsterdam
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As It Festers someone will be along to call you a fatzi shortly 😂
Liberals making stuff up and then getting mad they can’t molest it
Watched his video and boy…………… most of it was about the history of asian discrimination in the US and maybe a minute tops related to metal. Touch grass, there’s more world out there than your small bubble
Mark Reuterskiold outside of his politics it was actually a really interesting video! Too bad he’s a fucktard.
Never heard of any of these bands but metal is not supposed to be for pansy Karen’s
His video was insufferable, we don’t need an oppression narrative to call out actual Nazis.
Kip Sanders master would absolutely point to nazis in the pit for people to destroy we dont need someone bashing a famous band knowing hed get a headline for it.
I don’t really get the problem. Death and black metal are about death and destruction, mutilation, murder, decapitation, rape, decomposition, gore, and rot, and then there’s the belief that Christianity, in particular, should be wiped off the face of the earth. Death and black metal are, by definition, anti-human. PERIOD. Why is it such a huge problem when it concerns people of color? Then woke PC pseudo-musicians like the insignificant “ripped to shreds” start whining.
The real fascist Is pictured above
Such a virtue signalling warrior, meh
I’m so confused. The band master played a fest where another questionable band was slipped in to play on a different day at the last minute, so now the band ripped to shreds is refusing to play with master (?)
K.d. Murray yea wack! Why shouldn’t Master go get their money and play the festival…if there is an issue with a certain band, then just single them out not everyone on the bill
K.d. Murray its clearly for clout. He knew if he tried to bash master hed get a headline for his garbage ass music
Luciano Angelo DeMarco 😂😂😂😂
“last minute” Graveland and GBK were not added last minute and they’re the same garbage
Doesn’t he realize that by doing this he is giving them MORE exposure. Just like the Body Count “Cop Killer” thing back in ’92?
Imagine you call your band “ripped to shreds” but you behave like Hailey Williams 😂😂 you should name your next single “racist death metal singer”
His 15min should end soon
Gay metal is the new cool thing. Tell Morbid Angel not to vomit on the cross …just cancel the cross..
Peter Schmeltzer nobody cool is on here talking about this, they’re sticking to their local shows / tours or grinding away at their sh#t
Jordan Rice Cancel them….being gay is the new death
shut your communist cunt fucken duck sucking mouths
Ripped who cares??
Does RTS label Prolapse Records know about his racist ties? #relapserecords
Someone tell me what Arghoslent say or do that they get this negative image. I listened to them and had them on my radio show in the 90s and didn’t hear anything controversial in their lyrics.
He got RIPPED TO SHREDS
If dragging a fart down the produce isle of Walmart was a person
A band member who left the band because they were fucking nazis* fixed it for ya.
Life Metal!
Andrew Lee needs to state his pronouns so the we don’t offend it.
Hahahaahhahahahahaahhaajajajjaajhaaah
What this boils down to is; do you support nazism? No. Okay.
arghoslent rules, this guy sucks.
leave the political crybaby bullshit in the punk scene with the junkie ret♿rds where it belongs
This just gets better and better
Career suicide he should have just shut the fuck up 💩
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLg04uu2j2o
Seth Putnam would write a song about Andrew Lee.
Sid Frisbee
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Does he have downs?
Wear your cute little hats at shows and in the pit.
See ya then.
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So RTS is a bunch of hypocritical clowns ..
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What’s his response to this?
Man that backfired fast lol
Sasha Chrosciewicz sleeveless shirts require guns. He didn’t have any guns! 💪🏻
Brian Frechette trey never had guns lol
so many fucking chuds in this comment section holy shit. metal is embarrassing.
AL is a little b
Watched it. Was just a video that was more of a very personal thing and some things he said like “systemic racism of turkish immigrants in germany” and then just brushing it off like “yeah but we don’t care about that here”. Some things made sense but most of it was just… Something else. It felt like he wanted a minimum racial minority percentage in metal like Yeah. Because preference in music is not at all influenced by culture and upbringing nuh uh.