Fear Factory guitarist Dino Cazares has subtly addressed the recent announcement of a new project by his former bandmate Christian Olde Wolbers. It appears that Wolbers is aiming to recreate a version of Fear Factory with his new band, Angst Fabrik, which translates to “Fear Factory” in German. The project focuses on capturing the iconic industrial groove metal sound of their previous work, even going so far as to mimic the band’s signature drum sounds.
In a social media post on March 9th, Cazares shared a tweet from October 2020, which now carries an ironic twist, referencing the German translation of Fear Factory’s name:
“I guess asking this backfired on me” – Dino Cazares (@DinoCazares)
Cazares remains the sole original member of Fear Factory, after a series of contentious legal disputes involving Wolbers, former drummer Raymond Herrera, and vocalist Burton C. Bell.
Meanwhile, Angst Fabrik is in the process of working on new material, with Wolbers leading the charge. Fear Factory, on the other hand, is recording their eleventh studio album, marking their first project with new vocalist Milo Silvestro.

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I’m all for this, Archetype was such an underrated album, he did a great job at taking on lead guitar
Leigh Clarkdino is obese
There’s no FF without Burton
Kostas Sketos
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I agree
Only one fear factory and Dino is fear factory. They say mimicry is the height of flattery but this is just weak.
Marty Williamson As clearly evidenced by one of the records he had nothing to do with being one of their best ones.
Danny Kopij that’s a matter of opinion. Mechanize and every record after smokes archetype with little effort.
Danny Kopij And the other being the absolute worst one since they didn’t rewrite previous songs. What’s your point?
Mark Morenohes trying to say that Dino is morbidly OBESE
Marty Williamsondino is obese on all records
Earl Sharples And?
Earl Sharples and yet he’s far cooler and more talented than you’d ever hope to be.
Marty Williamsonlol the obese aren’t cool
Mark Morenoare you obese as well🤣🤣🤣🤣
Earl Sharples Yep. Apparently the fatter you are the more talent you have
Earl Sharples I can see you’re iq is in the 60’s so we’ll just cut this conversation off here before you embarrass yourself any farther.
Marty Williamsonsounds like something an obese person would say
Mark Morenothen you must be better than staind
Marty Williamsonpeople who like metal are retarded
Earl Sharples I dunno, it’s been awhile 🤷🏻♂️
Mark Morenothat isnt a staind song
Earl Sharples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=araU0fZj6oQ
Marty Williamson absolutely not.
Marty Williamson Burton was fear factory the new singer just pretends to be him
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But if Dino is the sole original member in Fear Factory, then technically “Fear Factory” has equally as many original FF members as Angst Fabrik.
Billy Bouton Christian isn’t an original member, but he’s a classic member
Carl Mullen ah I see. I remember reading somewhere the other day that the Angst Fabrik name the guy is currently using is just supposed to be temporary anyway.
Billy Bouton I’m looking forward to it.
Billy BoutonDino takes up the space of 5 band members bc he is OBESE
Archetype is hands down one of their best albums in my opinion. Amongst the top 3. His vision for FF was so honest and grounded. When I was younger, and that album came out, I never would have guessed it was a different line up.
Richard Jack Reynolds
Because he literally used Dinos style and copied it.
How did you feel when Transgression come out?
Christian is like Dino from Temu.
Heath J W Butler if you read the writing credits from Demanufacture up to Digimortal where Dino left, Christian is credited as a writer. Id argue that Dinos style wasn’t “copied” because Christian was also a progenitor of that sound. The only formative album Chrisitan is not a part of is Soul of a new Machine. Transgression is also a great album, it’s different but that doesn’t make it bad. Go to the youtube comment section of that album and you’ll see all the love for that album.
Haha Dino looks more like a thumb every day
Hahaha. Oh come on, how are none of you seeing the funny side here? Gotta admire the balls on straight-up trolling. This is either just a troll to drag interest to whatever the new project actually is, or – in a true mega-troll – it’s Archetype v2. Either way, I’m good for whatever comes.
Lol
The proof will be in the pudding, as they say. It doesn’t take a lot to copy someone’s style on stage but we’ll see how much Fear is left in the Factory when they put out new material.
Park Boyerwhen you say pudding, is that a shot at Dino bc he is morbidly OBESE?
Christian had more groove to his playing than Dino.
Sam Harveyyeah but Dino is way more obese than Christian
Earl Sharples why are you so obsessed with that lol
Derek AnthonyDave chivalry from el nino is also OBESE
Earl Sharples ok cool man, so what? They’re not walking around scantily clad like some whales do.
Derek AnthonySteve Carpenter is also OBESE
Fatso needs to stfu.
Christian is a hack. He didn’t write on any of the good ff albums. And no, archetype is not good. Derivative bullshit. Oh and fuck him for being a right wing moron
Charles SepulvedaDino is obese like dave chivalry from el nino
Demanufacture
Archetype
Obsolete
That is Fear Factory top 3 records in order. And Christian wrote and recorded guitars for the entire Archetype album. Dude is more than capable of making an incredible record.
Richie Simpson this is correct
Richie Simpson yea he did.
But he did that imitating and using Dinos style as inspiration.
He also played lead for ‘Transgression’.
That went well.
If he is so capable of creating an incredible record, why hasn’t he been able to since?
Richie Simpson He sure can’t pick an original band name.
Richie Simpson Cyberwaste sounds 10 times better when current FF play it live than it has ever sounded.
Meanwhile, Mechanize kills Obsolete and Archetype. And most other FF albums as well if we’re being honest.
C.O.W is undoubtedly talented, he just needs to drop it and go his own way. Even now, he is still trying to use Dinos coat-tails to get something. We don’t need 2 Fear Factorys, Dino knows how to do it better than anyone
Richie Simpson Mechanize reigns supreme for me above most of the FF discography.
Thien Van Hoangthat is because of Hoglan on the drums. Anything he touches is gold
Pretty funny. Interested to hear how original material pans out with Milo on vocals. Archetype was a great record, Transgression wasn’t great and that Arkaea album was rubbish so Christians project could go either way.
Dino has Chlamydia. Just saying.
Dino is dumpster fire 🔥
Dino’s ex wife invited me and my ex partner as VIP’s in 2013 for the Demanufacture (played in full) concert and when we finally got in the “green” room then Dino was like WTF!? “Who are you people!?” Then my ex misses has spoken to Dino for hours too online about shit and stuff. Then in 2021 (maybe) I’d been talking to Burton’s wife on Instagram and BCB himself and we met them in person at an in store signing and then that night went to see him sing and he knew us and came up to our table and shook our hands and said some words, so that was really cool! And then, (sorry but I haven’t finished) Christian is someone I’ve had numerous conversations with on Instagram and he’s an awesome guy and he’s a legend!! Plus I’m friends with Raymond on Facebook! So yeah, Dino is a whiney little bitch when it comes to his ex band mates and I love them all individually!! Dino (I understand) has had a terrible law suit with his ex FF members but I’ve found them all to be great guys! So yeah, sorry it turned ugly for you and the rest of the band Dino but you keep on bitching like a jealous teenage girl! WTF!!??
Daniel StevensonDino is morbidly obese
Dino is a skid
I also highlight irony of Dino Fear Factory scrambled lineup
The best thing to come out of Christian in the last 20 years was an album he produced for a band called ‘End of the Rope’.
That. Is. All.
Heath J W Butler i looked them up on spotify but producer creds are missing
Bret Allustiarti they had 2 albums and 1 EP.
They were amazing.
The guitarist got murdered not long after.
But the album ‘Til it Bleeds’ was produced by Christian.
I honestly thought they were gonna be massive.
Heath J W Butler huh. weird i knew every band and not them lol
Bret Allustiarti wish I could send the album.
I still listen to it.
Any FF music made by Burton, Christian, Raymond, Dino and Byron is FF for me. You have to have at least 2 or 3 of them in the mix to be FF record. Dino and his bullshit behavior is not FF. Everything after Raymond and Burton left is not FF.
Dino’s a typical prick, rather he keep his opinion to himself because that’s all it is, son!
Can we be real here for a second, Archetype, the first 6 songs are great, after that its just weak/mediocre. The last album with burton was top tier FF.
I wish the original lineup could squash their beef
Marcus English Saw ’em in 98. What a night.
Marcus English legal issues prevent that.
Marcus Englishdino doesn’t squash beef, he deep fries and eats it
If they got the core of fear factory all together they would all be making money, but to them them be getting slim pickins
Why is noone pointing this out:
(lol, it was in the article, Pass by, nothing to see here)
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Angst Fabrik is real?? I thought it was a meme or something
My two favorite FF albums are Archetype and Transgression. With that being said I like the other ones too. Burton is the voice I grew up on and in my opinion is the sound that completes FF. I hope that both groups put out great albums. More metal for us. We don’t have to pick sides, none of them know any of us.
It’s not even FF anymore. Just Dino and a few mates.
Angst fabrik is FF in dutch i guess xixix
Sesar Sehat Santoso in german
There is no Fear Factory without Burton.
Tim Davenport although I feel the same… people said the same thing about Max and Sepultura… and the same with Cannibal Corpse… yet they continued for decades.
Ant Ithesis and we’re not that great without them
Tim Davenport maybe with the new project off christian
Martin RicherChristian is gay
Dino Factory
Fuck Dino
The new singer is just a wannabe Burton and I have no time for that. Without Burton as he is the true voice of the band , you need to call the band something else as FF died when you all went to court and became enemies!!!
Jesus Mecha christ!! Can they just get the fuck over shit!?!? I love Dino, always have, he’s an inspiration to me, Burton was always timeless to me, Christian was always so cool, Raymond was the first double bass drummer i ever heard.
To me, (and alot of others) that was the lineup that made the classics and the ground breaking style.
Seriously either stop the immature underhanded drama bullshit witheach other, OR DUKE IT OUT AND GET BACK TOGETHER!!!!
On the flip side, Milo is doing EXCELLENT!!!!
Daniel Lynn well said mate, well said
Never thought we’d have another Sepultura / Cavalera Conspiracy thing where a broken down band dissolves into 2 bands that essentially tour the exact same material again, but here we are I guess?
Fear factory in german thats either fucking hilarious or cringy depending on the intent
Oh you mean the CYBERWASTE is running his mouth, talking shit again? Burton Bell named him well. Dino’s band isn’t even Fear Factory, not anymore really. Fear Factory goes where Burton goes. Letting Dino Cazares back into the picture was the worst mistake Burton ever made.
Malcolm James Chinn fear factory is dino cazares
Really? Because I recall two perfectly good albums made without Dinos involvement. Guitarists are an important part of a bands sound and identity, sure, but not nearly as important as the vocalist and Burton C. Bell was the voice of Fear Factory for over 30 fucking years. Fear Factory went with Burton. Dino should show some class and respect and rename his band.
Lan Lainas Exactly , Burton’s solo work is weak imo.
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Malcolm James Chinn Transgression “Perfectly Good”
The reason that album flopped is because Burton had an issue with Chris and Ray, enough issues that he chose songs to record separately with just the producer and then it was rushed, without any of the bands input. The reason Archetype and any other FF album sounded good is because Christian and Dino guided him with melodies. They write the music, not Burton, Burton has ideas and his ideas are shown in Ascension of the Watchers and now his solo career. Look how that’s all going. GZR worked because of Geezer having a plan.
Burton doesn’t have a plan, he has an ego, he wants to be an artist, not a musician, an artist who wants many things. Specific artists can be musicians. They are doing great. Burt is more of an entrepreneur, he wants to do comics, write stories, photography, when it fails he wants to do music, he is on record claiming to “not be a metal guy” but now his mantra moving forward is “Dark, Moody, Heavy, and Groovy” and so far its just obvious FF disses that he claims are not because “I didn’t capatalize the letters, bruh.”
Burt fucks himself and gets away with it. Burt fucks other people and gets away with it. City of Fire for instance, they had two albums, the first was awesome, the second was okay, but the second had financial issues because Burton allegedly screwed over money from the fan campaign.
Burton won’t tell you this, but Burton C Bell fucked Burton C Bell. Court documents state that he failed to list FF as an asset and thats why he lost his right to the band. So everyone got fucked because Burton decided to go bankrupt and along the way, the band name went up for auction.
Burton was happy to know this because he’s a solo artist who won’t have to care anymore, he thought no one should have the band and he was fine with that.
Then Dino, went through hell and hardships to take those rights and make them his. That upset Burton, because now he has to contend with FF existing and with someone he didn’t want owning it.
What did Burton do? Took his ball and went home, told the fucking world that he only carried on with Dino for the money. Dino started a crowd fund and boosted up the production on an album that was rumored to sound like ass before he fixed it. Dino also changed the name of the album and its artwork, Burton was probably like “No, my vision!” in a dark room wearing a turtle neck.
Burton wanted to talk about “Monolith” for years to come, share his art for it, and tell fans “gee it sucks it never came out, maybe some day you know” like he says about City of Fire’s second album Trial Through Fire, he thinks that album never got released because he fucked the pledge campaign. He tried to fuck Dino’s attempt to crowd fund the new album.
AND Dino wanted Burton to come back, he wanted to just get back to work, Burton chose to leave, he wants NOTHING to do with the band, Dino couldn’t sell it back nor share it if he wanted to. See? Burton C. Bell did that to himself, no one else, he can blame others all he wants but its still his own fault.
So yeah, Burton, I was a fan, still trying to be a fan, but Burton C. Bell is no fucking saint, he’s a bitter dude who seemingly bounces back and forth between people he’s willing to know. With Dino, Christian and Ray were whatever but now he’s distant with Dino so he’s cool with Christian again.
Ray is doing just fine btw and I’d imagine he is cool with anyone but he’s long since hung up his drum sticks and kicking back in his retirement.
Christian been trying to get back in FF for fucking ever, he LOATHED Burt and Dino for it. Christian was willing to give up guitar to be back, he had ideas for songs, blah blah blah, its not happening so why not be back in the band by himself in another language?
I’m excited for what Christian and Dino are doing because, as we established, they both are musicians, music is their passion, music is their art.
Burton’s little band however? bunch of yes man, who can’t play songs like Self Bias Resistor, Shock, or anything with too much foot work… not sure who is deciding that, its not energetic, and I don’t think it’s “Darker” sounding live. It is a pale imitation of FF.
Burt’s gonna play songs from his entite career, nothing anyone wants to hear, but its something I guess.
Ultimately, lastly, I am keen to see FF’s next return to form, they are killing it, Milo is an incredible vocalist and a man with many talents, FF is perfectly fine on festival stages.
Hood Chris Very well put!
Malcolm James Chinn Dino founded Fear Factory, therefore Dino is Fear Factory. I seen them live a few years ago, they were awesome. Cyberwaste sounded even better than the album version
Malcolm James Chinn what are you talking about? Dino’s playing is a HUGE part of Fear Factory.
Malcolm James Chinn i disagree, last time I saw Fear Factory with Dino and Burton he couldn’t sing any of the clean vocals. I was disappointed. I saw them with the new singer and he’s amazing! I don’t hate BCB and support whatever he does, just he doesn’t sound good live anymore. So I’m fine Dino carrying on after BCB quit.
Malcolm James Chinn fear factory is Dino. the 2 albums without him suck, are less then a cover band, while the albums Dino made outside of FF with Divine Heresy were more Fear Factory than the actual band .
Malcolm James Chinn Yeah, no one thinks that
Malcolm James Chinn Dino is and always has been a massive c*nt
Malcolm James Chinn This but the opposite
I dont like Dino, his riffs good but are pretty basic, it was BURTON who gave Fear Factory is presence on the metal scene. Without him, theyre NOTHING. That being said, its ALSO TRUE that every ex member, including Burton, has gone on to create basic, uninspiring music.
Steve Robertson this is because Dino is the songwriter. All the others were just piggybacking
I first saw FF in 95 on the Demanufacture tour opening for Ozzy. I saw the new lineup a couple yrs ago. While I miss that original lineup and glad I got to see them Dino and company are still killing it!
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Unfortunately, Fear Factory are now just a cabaret act. Dino promised a new song 18 months ago, yet it has still to materialise. I saw them a year ago and they were good, but without new material it just seems a bit like a tribute band.
Fabrica de mierda fabrica de drama
Will be better than ‘Fear Factory’
Imo Christian has showed with Arkaea and Powerflo that he is way superior to Dino since leaving. I’m most def more curious to what he’ll put out.
Fredrik Thimeradh I strongly disagree. Everything since mechanize has been valid in my opinion
Riki I’m not calling it garbage. Just that I think that the songs that Ray and Christian wrote and took with them to the Arkaea album is better.
May as well call themselves Dread Mill or Terror Plant or something similar 😂
Dino is a known egomaniac and a-hole. Every band or collab he enters blows up because dude is a prick.
Was waiting for another soul of a new machine
It’s just not Fear Factory anymore imo. Nothing against Dino or Cliff but without both of them it just will never been proper FF again
We need Dino, Rey, Burt, and Byron
Yeah I love Dino he’s one of my guitar hero’s and the new singer is great but I have a serious problem with static x imitating Wayne and fear factory has Tony on bass so I’m not buying the album Wayne and Tony we’re not friends Tony wasn’t going to let him use the static x name, now that Wayne passed I don’t believe Tony should be able to use that name either ,
Fuck Dino!
Might as well have called his band Scare Shop?
If Burton C. Bell joined them they should change the name to “Superior Factory”