John Joseph, frontman of Bloodclot and former vocalist of Cro-Mags, has taken aim at what he calls the hypocrisy of “activist bands” who, in his view, failed to speak out against government actions during the pandemic years.
In a recent Facebook post made on November 3rd, Joseph questioned why “99.9%” of politically outspoken bands didn’t challenge what he described as government overreach or lockdown restrictions during the COVID-19 pandemic.
“Why is it that 99.9% of the bands who made a living putting out records over the years about “fighting the system” didn’t release a single f*cking song against the bullsh*t “the system” pulled in 2020 and the years that followed? Answer: They were either scared of getting cancelled by the online muppets – or they backed what “the system” was doing. As for us we were sneaking into studios during the illegal l*ckdowns to make a record that spoke truth to power. “SOULS” – the opening line of the title track says it all- “Caught in a vicious cycle, ever impending de*th – darkness pushed illusion – spoken through their breath – nature holds what they deny – humans forced to d*e – madmen at the controls – for the manipulation of souls.” Music video in the comments.”
Joseph went on to highlight Bloodclot’s song “Souls”, referencing its opening lyric as an example of speaking “truth to power.” He added that his band recorded during lockdown restrictions to release music that pushed back against what he viewed as control and manipulation.
Since posting, Joseph has continued to engage with commenters on Facebook, responding to both supporters and critics alike.
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John Joseph (Bloodclot, Ex-Cro-Mags) Calls Out Activist Bands For Staying Silent During Pandemic Years
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People are getting disappeared in the street without due process and this clown is still mad he got asked to put a little piece of cloth on his face for a couple months.
John Snider you don’t have rights if you aren’t here legally. Literally none. You are a criminal. Its really simple high school level comprehension.
Kris Beck yeah you do, stupid. That is what Habeas Corpus is. You don’t get to change the rules just because you’re racist and want to lick boots.
John Snider no, no you dont retard. Constitution. Read it. No wonder so many people are so fucking dumb.
Oh yeah, im racist and lick boots. Weird, last I checked I dont like any sitting politician. They’re all tyrants and retards, apparently like you.
Kris Beck “I don’t support any politician, they’re all tyrants and retards”
*votes for some libertardian candidate who’s 10x more tyrannical / retarded than Dems or Repubs*
John Snider how many you got living with you????
Kris Beck this is actually false, unless you don’t support actual laws in which case, you do you ya fascist bigot.
god you’re a fucking retard
Torre Schmitt I would take your lunch money irl you fascist puke.
STFU
He’s kinda right
Jeff Dalrymple he’s 100% right
Jeff Dalrymple 1000% right. I honestly think the suburban kids destroyed hardcore the older I get. And I am one of those suburban kids but at least I see how all these hardcore kids fell in line when the shit hit the fan.
It was just the young kids (generation) all around, I don’t think it matters whether suburban or not. When we had the scene it had a point, now? …..
They just follow along with what their teachers in school tell them, and then what the government tells them, and of course they’ll throw a tantrum when they don’t get their way. They always take the path of least resistance ya know?
We gave them the keys to a Cadillac(hardcorepunk)
….and they wrecked it
Aww the junkie only wants to put needles in his arm when the big bad gubahment isn’t FoRcInG him to
What a moron. Pissed off because the government did what it had to do to survive a deadly pandemic. Loads of people kept working throughout the lock down.
Tony Berryman a flu you mean haha grow a pair of balls bootlicker!
Preston Scharf you fuck right off with that bullshit. I lost people to that pandemic. Stop letting social media control your every thought and take a look at the real life world around you man. Touch some grass maybe.
Tony Berryman *scamdemic im sure they had pre existing health conditions that was the main factor! Be mad at the democrats they made the virus in a lad not me!
Tony Berryman “The experiment was a success”
Meh. This guy sounds like a whiny turd. How about looking at what’s going on in America right now. Write a song about that, instead of continuing to moan and groan about that one time a couple years ago when you were asked to stay inside for the common good. Lots of people died from COVID. Use your brain and prioritize
Metal loves to aim at the safe villains priests, crosses, the Church ghosts that no longer haunt anyone. It’s easy rebellion: shock without consequence.
Meanwhile, the real temples of control stand untouched corporations, algorithms, technocrats shaping minds in silence. The scene spits fire at old altars but bows to new ones made of screens and slogans.
It’s not rebellion anymore. It’s theatre for the domesticated.
Veil Ripper Record Said on FB, while sporting an avatar/company logo that is made by Ai. Gotcha.
Jebb Riley you shoot the messenger. Don’t forget your seasonal vaccine.
Veil Ripper Record wow it’s like the overwhelming majority of metalheads trust science so we shit on everything that is anti science and anti people. Plenty of anti corporation bands out there, you must not listen to much music.
Kyle Kamp that’s exactly my point.
When rebellion starts echoing the slogans of authority, it stops being rebellion.
Veil Ripper Record AND YOURE AN AI BAND? BAHAHAHAHAHA
Kyle Kamp Funny how none of you addressed the point just who said it.
That’s how rebellion dies: when the crowd defends dogma, not truth.
Metal used to question priests; now it kneels to “science” with the same blind faith.
The medium isn’t the sin the submission is.
Veil Ripper Record just say you’re a conservative that understands little to nothing, AI bands are absolute dogshit and have no place in the world. Fuck off
Veil Ripper Record well that’s a great rationalization for being complacent🤔
Eric Ronin Complacency is obedience in disguise.
The difference is that I see the cage you decorate it.
Veil Ripper Record I’m glad you like my tats …I also notice you weren’t there when we founded sharp but I bet you wave our flag like you were there🤔🤣🤣🤣
Eric Ronin We probably see the same things, society’s drift, the conformity disguised as virtue.
I just grew up on thrash thinking the bands actually believed what they screamed. But the stance of Chuck Billy from Testament or Dee snider (we’re not gonna take it…. My ass🤮) really deceived me.
Veil Ripper Record check my newest project with some old faces LOCK DOWN inc.we are seeking representation 😊
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Veil Ripper Record HAHAHAHAHA you AI-metal clown. Eff off
Viktor Gustafsson same as the other, you shooting the messenger.
Veil Ripper Record rebellion simply for the sake of rebellion is the realm of teenagers. Directionless tantrums. Acting like you were oppressed by non-existent federal mandates is Hot Topic rebellion. Punk, hardcore and metal’s rebellion was and is best when aimed at true inequalities and real oppression. Acting like suggested safeguards while people were trying to figure out and get a handle on a fast spreading virus is oppression is performative victimhood.
Craig Tangata I don’t confuse rebellion with tantrums, that’s the difference between impulse and conscience.
The point isn’t about masks or mandates. It’s about how every generation ends up defending the very systems it once swore to fight.
Rebellion loses its soul the day it asks for permission.
Craig Tangata explain this to me then,
how the same system that floods streets with poison suddenly cares so deeply about our health.
Maybe rebellion isn’t refusing care, maybe it’s refusing hypocrisy.
Veil Ripper Record no one said they “care about our health”. What was “hypocritical” about it?
Craig Tangata The hypocrisy is pretending control is compassion.
That’s how every empire sells obedience.
Craig Tangata “Suggested safeguards while people were trying to figure out and get a handle on a fast spreading virus…..” 🫡 Maybe for the first 2-3 months of flattening the curve and not 2-3yrs ? Revisit old ads, commercials, double standards, taunting rhetoric of threatening livelihoods, families and the elderly dying alone, even after all the data and direct evidence of transmission within the jabbed populus, Real experts outside of beaurocracy who were shunned and expelled from humanity for their broadened yet challenging inquisitions and/or their true findings of factual evidenced data, and let’s not forget the heavy tactics of exclusion being likely THE biggest segregation efforts ever in our history as mankind because “not everyone was essential…” OR – simply get back to burying your head in the sand, and we’ll keep those boots above room temperature for ya when its time to lick them again. 👍
Jon Rioux “real experts”? You know who won’t shut up about the “oppression” they suffered during the pandemic? The least oppressed group of people in the history of humanity. That’s a weird coincidence huh? Literally nothing happened to you outside of being inconvenienced and you so desperately want to be oppressed. Performative victimhood.
Jon Rioux “seriously, dude, commercials were mean to me and I couldn’t go to Tim Hortons without putting a mask on for eighteen seconds. It was seriously the holocaust, bro.”
Fuckin dork.
Craig Tangata Well said, but I disagree. Letting the government and whoever flex their muscles, and yes, limiting our freedom, is a huge deal that we will continue to see the consequences of
Chris Berner what “freedom” was limited? The pandemic was the best time in the last decade. Besides there being no shows, nothing else happened. Roads were empty, had people over all the time, worked through the whole thing, got food to go (with drinks), literally nothing happened. What you’re saying by saying your freedoms were limited, is saying that you let them tell you what to do. If you just went about your life, you know what happened? Absolutely nothing.
Craig Tangata ok 👍
Veil Ripper Record this aint about metal
Cro mags is dead cop hardcore.
He’s 100% right punk became mostly commie shills for authoritarianism and “public private partnerships” of the world economic forum
A few stood against the BS thank God madball and a bunch of bands stood up in New York rather than being gay shills for the new world order
Chris Cantrell agreed
Chris Cantrell STFU poser. Punk became commie shills? Go back to listening to Korn records and then dine on a round of .00
Ryan Danley lol gaaay
Ryan Danley groomer vibes
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Ryan Danley also I was correct about the communism lol blm is a communist organization lol
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Ryan Danley whatever you say, p3do f@660t. All you “punks” do anymore is support the current thing media tells you to. You’re the poser here
David Senda Ya..because I am total a bottom for a world class pedo like you. Drop your details man. Let’s meet. Roll deep bro.
Ryan Danley because I think you’re a kid fucking f&660t I must be trump supporter 😂🤣 you’re ignorant and a poser
David Senda If it walks.like a duck. But really..let’s meet up. I travel all the time. More than happy to chat.
Ryan Danley lol “roll deep” what a faggot, leave those kids alone 😂 also trans kids are like vegan cats someone else made that decision.
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Ryan Danley I’m not in the habit of giving bloated groomers my personal contact information on the internet. One of these days you will find someone to knock the dust off that double chin closer to Portland
Chris Cantrell “punk became commie”
*lists things that communists are against*
JS McIntyre commies act like they are against these things like authoritarianism then turn right around and demand covid shots and cancellation for offensive speech,high taxation and government funded everything which is the goal of the oligarchs
Useful idiots at best for the people up top…
Chris Cantrell Only childish anti-authoritarians want to disregard public health. An adult can acknowledge science and concern for others while opposing things like prison and military systems.
JS McIntyre lol “science” includes vaccine mandates,blood clots,and seizures in the name of public health rather than self determination to choose for yourself
You’re proving my point that punk has degraded into commie state worshiping simps for big government
Funny enough when it first started Kamala was anti covid vaccination too acting like trump was mixing the shots at his desk lol then you guys memory holed that in favor of mandates when democrats decided it was a way to increase power and divide people
You guys are the most psychologically managed and manipulated people on planet earth all the while thinking you are the anti establishment but taking money from rich Jewish donors like George and Alex Soros to fund BLM,NO Kings,Portland CHAZ,ect ect
Chris Cantrell Nice addition of the antisemitism at the end there.
Vaccine mandates is how diseases have been eradicated, at least until recently thanks to idiots spreading measles.
JS McIntyre merely mentioning Jewish donors to communist organizations and cultural rot is antisemitism? lol you sure do obey the corporate oligarchs well 🤣btw Jesus Christ is God and he’s Jewish so it would be retarded for me to hate Jews
Chris Cantrell Yes considering that it’s based on bullshit, just like believing that a billionaire who financed the downfall of communism in Eastern Europe is somehow a communist himself.
JS McIntyre many commies killed each other due to different goals,it’s not a crazy jump in logic. Just admit you’re simp for the establishment it’s true of how your ideological side operates either knowingly or unknowingly
Chris Cantrell Right, someone who believes the working class should abolish the government and seize the economy from the wealthy supports the establishment
Chris Cantrell lmao, you’re one of those morons that probably says “conservative is the new punk” without even a shred of sarcasm.
Chris Cantrell rather be a commie shill than a bootlicker
Matt Viel same thing dude,you think I worship the orange man? lol that’s hilarious
Matt Viel but commies ARE BOOTLICKERS 🤦🏻♂️
Chris Cantrell Nailed it 👍
It’s true the left is funded by them that’s an unavoidable fact
It’s as if you don’t understand how being a pawn for people above you works yeah they have opposite goals are from opposing groups and still fund people they don’t agree with to point their anger toward the larger population to destabilize them
Most of the low level revolutionaries in communist countries are executed because the higher ups know they are capable
You do the dirty work they fund it then dispose of you when you are no long useful to them 🤷♂️
Chris Cantrell Right ! I can’t with people now days being super woke
https://youtu.be/mszZW74Kwlc?si=5iBMEm8L1xqmIWf4
Wow, you guys need to get jobs
Dude is the Alex Jones of hardcore. Hes been a conman since the beginning. Read stories about him dressing up like Santa Ckuas in a wheelchair for charity. The ‘system ‘ actually wanted you to go to work and die from a vurus to keep making people rich. His antivax stance is just right wing douchbaghery. This is why Harley won that fight.
Good call. This is when “punk” went commie. Nothing says rebellion like doing what authority and government tell you to do. Clowns
This guy is a Trump puppet ass clown who really deserves no screen time.
Out of all things happening, being mad about bands not “speaking out” against a lock down during a pandemic about a virus in which little was known about seems like an odd thing to complain about. But we are on the internet
Right? Imagine a punk band being all “fuck science and learning in real time!”
Especially six years later. He’s made it his entire identity.
Christopher Nicholas Nemeth it was known, it was kept from the population
I WaS TaKiNg a Shit In McDoNaLdS
Rob Dyrdek looking old
Bro, John Joseph has real disorders that have gone all the way down the tootieFruityMAGAcovidQanon-hole
Who cares what this knob thinks? He made one good record 40 years ago,m.
I like Bloodclot but this man is unbearable
Most punk rockers and metalheads are rule followers nowadays. This was something that was edgy around 50 years ago.
Barry Donegan 💯
What a crybaby pussy
Hare Krishnas probably don’t like science much
Almost as lame as Lydon goin Maga or Johnny Ramone being Pro bush
Mark Fleming why? Because your goofy ass says so? You fucking suck dude. Youre the worst kind of person. “It’s lame!!” You sound like you like to walk around with another mans shit on your dick you fucking tool
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Mark Fleming good little nazi
Matt Wheatley Nazi? More like a statist. Blindly following the pandemic was the opposite of punk rock.
I’m talking about Mark Fleming the guy commenting.
Mark Fleming Not nearly as Lame as being a member of the Democrat Nazi Death Cult.
Mark Fleming right. JJ is right. You aren’t.
Mark Fleming and Lydon did not go MAGA dumb ass….omg……
Punk Rock in 2020: “Fuck you do what they tell you!”
He’s right. Sucking government and corporate dick is always lame.
He’s not wrong. All the so called punks just shut up and fell in line like little sheep.
No KiNgz DoUgH!!!!!!1
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Steven Matheny that is nothing but a bunch of idiotic strawmanning and prevarication. I lost two immediate family members to COVID, which they caught independently of each other, because people believe that it was a “hoax” or that it wouldn’t happen to them.
Throughout none of this was I ever prevented from “worshipping the real king” and in fact my church and pastor were central to me being able to get through it.
Your ideology is empty-headed and poisonous, and you need to start listening to people smarter than you, and re-evaluate your life, and probably get a therapist and a better church.
Steven Matheny 🎯🎯🎯
True they were masked up and hiding in their safe spaces cuz they were told to
William Zambotti a pedo wearing a mask whining about people wearing masks is so apt
Will Watson eww dude…go away …gross ass mother fucker ….crawl back under your slimy rock ya turd
Tell him to eat a steak and smoke a blunt and chill out.
🤡💩
Doofy contrarianism is exhausting
The governments have hell toupee!!
Is he MAGA
Carl Breuer it sure sounds like it
I don’t think I like him anymore
Carl Breuer He’s just a dumbass.
Agreed
Disappointed to say the least
Take the hat off and show us your wig
Omg it’s over. No ones wearing masks anymore you fuckin crybaby.
Remember when he had people stab Harley?
Kevin Kline remember when people were arrested in nyc for not wearing a mask?
Dan Mullan no one was arrested for not wearing a mask. People were arrested for disorderly conduct or trespassing because they would cause a scene when asked to leave a private business.
Oooh so edgy! So rebellious! He won’t shut up about Covid, move on.
Ego check!
He’s right.
Yeah ok. He wants to know why bands weren’t complaining about the government trying to keep people alive? Get the fuck out of here dork.
Hes absolutely right. All of these anti establishment bands proved they are posers.
What song did he write for it ?
Will Rip Ozzy Cro-Mags.
The Age of Quarrel, is probably better than half the stuff you currently listen to. Seriously. Check that album out
Ray Badabing best hardcore album of all time . If you read the article it was about why aren’t hardcore bands writing about covid and what was forced on us due to it . So I simply wrote what song did he write for it . I also read John’s book . You should pick-up the evolution of cro-magnon . It’s a sad telling story about all he endured.
And how he got to where he is today .
Will Rip Ozzy oh crap, i read over the “it” in the end. Haha
I got the audiobook as soon as it came out years ago.
He’a definitely a case of sucking to see your heros become old and shity
Jesus christ bro is gonna beat that horse into crude oil at this point
Being anti vax and Into pushing back against science IS the mainstream.
Unfortunately.
Just be a punk singer
Clown Boy.
How were your supposed to rebel against the lock down when there wasn’t any venues open? Get over it!
Covid turned “question authority” to “blue no matter who and gimme the jab”.
Branch Davidian spoke out against the Charlie Baker mandates.
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I hate to say it but fuck that muppet.